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Not sure exactly what you are asking but to my understanding..NO stainless, and NO offset. As far as the offset I would think if you laid a hook on a table edge (eye off the table)  the non offset would lay flat and the offset wouldn't. The stainless is self explanatory and a magnet won't pick it up.

http://inshoreflorida.blogspot.com/2008/03/circle-hook-ruling-joint-admendent-2714.html

"A circle hook is described by NMFS as a hook designed so that the point is turned perpendicular back to the shank in forming a generally circular or oval shape. Reef Fish Gear Regulations (Effective June 1, 2008)" That is where my understanding of NO OFFSET comes from....I might be wrong and stand to be corrected.

Commercial and Recreational

• Require the use of non-stainless steel circle hooks when using natural bait (live or dead) when fishing for any of the reef fish species
• Require venting tools and dehooking devices to be onboard and used on all vessels harvesting any of the reef fish species
• No mention of No offset

I would like to have the option of circle hooks or barbless hooks.

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Not to start a pissing match, the reason I said "Non-Offset" is because the wording of perpendicular (the question would be: is the offset hook perpendicular?). And they spell out the words stainless steel.

"A circle hook is described by NMFS as a hook designed so that the point is turned perpendicular back to the shank in forming a generally circular or oval shape. Reef Fish Gear Regulations (Effective June 1, 2008)" That is where my understanding of NO OFFSET comes from....I might be wrong and stand to be corrected.

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Here is your link for the circle hook requirement.

http://myfwc.com/marine/GearRules/index.htm

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Here is your link for the circle hook requirement.

http://myfwc.com/marine/GearRules/index.htm[/quote]

Thanks...that spells out what I was interpreting as to what I read as perpendicular.

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Are offset circle hooks allowed?

Gulf of Mexico federal waters

1. • Yes, offset circle hooks are allowed in Gulf of Mexico federal waters. The definition of a circle hook indicates the point is turned perpendicularly back to the shank of the hook, but does not preclude an offset angle.
2. • The offset hook indicates the angle of sideways bending of the end of the hook in relation to the hook shank.
3. • While offset hooks are allowed in federal waters, some research has indicated the greater the degree of offset, the greater the likelihood of injuring a hooked fish. Therefore, their use is discouraged.

1. • Offset circle hooks are allowed in federal waters when fishing for reef fish. On June 1, 2008, Florida will not allow offset circle hooks to be used when fishing for reef fish in state waters.
2. • For other states, check with the state fishery management agency whose waters you are fishing in to determine if similar measures apply.

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Mudding the waters is right, but it is spelled out. So the BEST thing to do is only buy Non-Stainless, Non-Offset Circle hooks, unless there is a major difference to my question below.

Now my question for someone that has the experience with both types of Circle hooks is....

Can YOU tell by any great margin that the hook up rate with a offset circle hook is greater then with a non-offset circle hook. Not that it makes ant difference, under the new rules.

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Actually you probably would have to prove it yourself vs the FWC. How I don't know. My feeling now is why take a chance. Hell I Bass fish with barbless hooks, and they sure can shake a hook trying to get off and I still boat them.

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When have you seen two different FWC officers have two different interpretations of a rule that can and at times is ambiguous?

If need be, considering the price factor, and if illegal, can the Mustad ultrapoint demon circle hooks. Half the price of owners but slightly offset. Be straighted out. Just curious

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If you get a positive response we need to print it out. If you get a negative response E-Mail again and the response might be different.

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