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No hell. I had saved enough after all my losses the whole 30 minutes we were there to pay for ALL of the gas to get us to Fourchon and back. It was a Christmas present for Spence. And who the hell are you and why are trying to start !@#$ that you have no knowledge of and no business using other people's name on a public forum. Why don't to crawl back in your hole.
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| And by the way thanks for joining our forum tonight to start !@#$ under a ficticous name while we are trying to have a fishing discussion. The shit starter website is in !@#$ Iraq. Why don't you hang out over there.
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Yall are a riot....Mr. Alvares i worked at DBM and driven your fine Jupiter many of times..i also just read your post about catching tarpon..whenever you are ready to go ill buy the beer and you take me to the man in the silver suit...As for Spencer im pretty sure it wasnt you but somebody taught him how to highstick..if i was you id of left his bird butt in Fourchon...Just kidding
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so feeding freenzy we got a bet on during the international i see??
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Bodacious (6/7/2008) so feeding freenzy we got a bet on during the international i see??You want in??? Who's side you taking. I'll give you 2 to 1 odds.
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Dylan (6/7/2008) Yall are a riot....Mr. Alvares i worked at DBM and driven your fine Jupiter many of times..i also just read your post about catching tarpon..whenever you are ready to go ill buy the beer and you take me to the man in the silver suit...As for Spencer im pretty sure it wasnt you but somebody taught him how to highstick..if i was you id of left his bird butt in Fourchon...Just kiddingThanks. You're on. Everybody else said I should left him down there, but I am too nice of guy. So what's 2 broken rods.
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Xanadu fishes with us.....
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Feeding Frenzy (6/8/2008)
Dylan (6/7/2008) Yall are a riot....Mr. Alvares i worked at DBM and driven your fine Jupiter many of times..i also just read your post about catching tarpon..whenever you are ready to go ill buy the beer and you take me to the man in the silver suit...As for Spencer im pretty sure it wasnt you but somebody taught him how to highstick..if i was you id of left his bird butt in Fourchon...Just kiddingThanks. You're on. Everybody else said I should left him down there, but I am too nice of guy. So what's 2 broken rods. i begg'd to differ your not really a nice guy.. you tried to get my fired from daybreak..and if you are gonna try and win a tournament you dont need to be wasting your time at peglegs drinking beer you need to be fishing. 1-0 GO PIER RATS LOL JK JK JK 
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Dylan (6/7/2008) Yall are a riot....Mr. Alvares i worked at DBM and driven your fine Jupiter many of times..i also just read your post about catching tarpon..whenever you are ready to go ill buy the beer and you take me to the man in the silver suit...As for Spencer im pretty sure it wasnt you but somebody taught him how to highstick..if i was you id of left his bird butt in Fourchon...Just kiddingThanks. You're on. Everybody else said I should left him down there, but I am too nice of guy. So what's 2 broken rods. i begg'd to differ your not really a nice guy.. you tried to get my fired from daybreak..and if you are gonna try and win a tournament you dont need to be wasting your time at peglegs drinking beer you need to be fishing. 1-0 GO PIER RATS LOL JK JK JK  Hey there genius boy. I have been out of town all week trying to support my family and wanted to enjoy a day out with my wife and daughter. And for the record since you are so smart I had zero beers at Peg Legs 4 witnesses and a receipt. I have exactly $20 invested in the Outcast Family Fishing rodeo and only do it to support Daybreak and Tommy at Outcast, but I will be fishing today and I will let the Adams' and Holmes your family your thoughts. Are you related to this Xanadu fella, Bodacious, and Bama Chem because if you are, you all need to back across the line and stay there before we get pissed off and take Orange Beach, Gulf Shores, and Dauphin Island back from you and the Bear and your genius new coach Nick "2 face, back stabbing, slime ball, Crooked," Coach. See you in the wahoo grounds, but that's right you guys don't know where they are.
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Bodacious (6/8/2008) Xanadu fishes with us.....Is that suppose to intimidate me. You want to throw your battle wagon in too. So we can get 2 more of those enviromentally unfriendly pieces of crap engines of the water. So we can stop supporting your friends in Iraq, OPEC, Japan, and China. What you get .1 miles to the gallon and you go 300 miles round trip mmmmmm. Why you guys get together and join the 21st century. There is this great new technology called four strokes and fresh air with no air conditioning with no generators needed then come talk to me. There is a reason why the don't sell 9000# airplane cable in tackle stores genius. 30 Stretch on a 130 are you guys !@#$% comedians or what. That must like a turd hanging out of an elephant. Let me guess you got one of those manly Palmetto fighting chairs with your big harness too. I love it. Good luck.
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| You know I shouldn't be so hard on you guys. Maybe you just don't know any better. Do you even own circle hooks, livewells, bait pens, tuna tubes, rigging needle, rubber bands, and I know you don't have a kites, down riggers, or balloons because all that would be way too much work, but if you want go on down to Tommy's and he can get you the equipment and I will show you how to use them. Or if you want keep dragging your dacron with $300 lures and J hooks and keep killing billfish and screwing up our enviroment while you are running down to Lloyds Ridge and Greens Ridge. You know Marcus Kennedy just sits back and laughs everytime you guys go out there and try to take his million dollars. By the way he fishes a center console with 4 strokes just for the record.
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Bodacious (6/8/2008) Xanadu fishes with us.....I have an idea you guys call mercy I won't call the fishing police to make you go back to Alabama with the Gill Netters because that's you real men catch fish right????
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i'm gonna laugh my ass off when you lose this tournament after talking all this shit and completely derailing this thread... good job sport...
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Bodacious (6/8/2008) Xanadu fishes with us.....Is that suppose to intimidate me. You want to throw your battle wagon in too. So we can get 2 more of those enviromentally unfriendly pieces of crap engines of the water. So we can stop supporting your friends in Iraq, OPEC, Japan, and China. What you get .1 miles to the gallon and you go 300 miles round trip mmmmmm. Why you guys get together and join the 21st century. There is this great new technology called four strokes and fresh air with no air conditioning with no generators needed then come talk to me. There is a reason why the don't sell 9000# airplane cable in tackle stores genius. 30 Stretch on a 130 are you guys !@#$% comedians or what. That must like a turd hanging out of an elephant. Let me guess you got one of those manly Palmetto fighting chairs with your big harness too. I love it. Good luck. Am I supposed to be scared? Wow. Talk about showing ignorance. Yep. I was trying to make a joke about the 130 and stretches. Trying to lighten ya'll up. Evidently the anger management classes didn't work for you. Am I supposed to bow down to you because you fish a CC? Hell, I fished one for a long time. Get a life.
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i'm gonna laugh my ass off when you lose this tournament after talking all this shit and completely derailing this thread... good job sport...  As will I
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Dylan (6/7/2008) Yall are a riot....Mr. Alvares i worked at DBM and driven your fine Jupiter many of times..i also just read your post about catching tarpon..whenever you are ready to go ill buy the beer and you take me to the man in the silver suit...As for Spencer im pretty sure it wasnt you but somebody taught him how to highstick..if i was you id of left his bird butt in Fourchon...Just kiddingThanks. You're on. Everybody else said I should left him down there, but I am too nice of guy. So what's 2 broken rods. i begg'd to differ your not really a nice guy.. you tried to get my fired from daybreak..and if you are gonna try and win a tournament you dont need to be wasting your time at peglegs drinking beer you need to be fishing. 1-0 GO PIER RATS LOL JK JK JK  Hey there genius boy. I have been out of town all week trying to support my family and wanted to enjoy a day out with my wife and daughter. And for the record since you are so smart I had zero beers at Peg Legs 4 witnesses and a receipt. I have exactly $20 invested in the Outcast Family Fishing rodeo and only do it to support Daybreak and Tommy at Outcast, but I will be fishing today and I will let the Adams' and Holmes your family your thoughts. Are you related to this Xanadu fella, Bodacious, and Bama Chem because if you are, you all need to back across the line and stay there before we get pissed off and take Orange Beach, Gulf Shores, and Dauphin Island back from you and the Bear and your genius new coach Nick "2 face, back stabbing, slime ball, Crooked," Coach. See you in the wahoo grounds, but that's right you guys don't know where they are. you can say anything to anybody that knows me and they are not going to believe a word you say something to tommy holmes and i know he wont hold a grudge on me 1st of all because its david alvarez talking to him and 2nd me and tommy holmes get along veerry well. he is very extra nice to use so called "pier rats" he used to be one. and say something to the adams go ahead i know what they are gonna think same thing they thought when you tried to get me fired... lol 
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Bodacious (6/8/2008) Xanadu fishes with us.....Is that suppose to intimidate me. You want to throw your battle wagon in too. So we can get 2 more of those enviromentally unfriendly pieces of crap engines of the water. So we can stop supporting your friends in Iraq, OPEC, Japan, and China. What you get .1 miles to the gallon and you go 300 miles round trip mmmmmm. Why you guys get together and join the 21st century. There is this great new technology called four strokes and fresh air with no air conditioning with no generators needed then come talk to me. There is a reason why the don't sell 9000# airplane cable in tackle stores genius. 30 Stretch on a 130 are you guys !@#$% comedians or what. That must like a turd hanging out of an elephant. Let me guess you got one of those manly Palmetto fighting chairs with your big harness too. I love it. Good luck. Am I supposed to be scared? Wow. Talk about showing ignorance. Yep. I was trying to make a joke about the 130 and stretches. Trying to lighten ya'll up. Evidently the anger management classes didn't work for you. Am I supposed to bow down to you because you fish a CC? Hell, I fished one for a long time. Get a life. and DOWNTIME i would love to fish with you just to get the satisfactory of beating alvarez in a tounrament
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i got my money on the boys on BODACIOUS
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| I would like the original request of the post to continue..........I just bought a tld 20 and a purple and black yozuri to add to my arsinal. would like to know how to rig the other lures also. do you also put wire on the other lures? will wire turn off the mahi? how picky are the black fins about the wire? please continue the original thread. would be very usfull info with this being the beginning of the season and all. seen alot of mahi busting on the last few trips out. I fish from a small boat and my longer distance trips out are not that common. Would apreciate the help, thank you.
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| For the tail whipping comment, dont have any experience with wahoo, but with kings fishing with a short wire leader and light mono line(12-20lb) some times when the fish runs the line ends up running right beside there body and when the line is very tight on the run the fish's tail can "slap" the line and break it. hope this helps. so, with the wire on the bonito lure comments, should i add a split ring to the eye on the lure to prevent the single strand from wearing?
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Bodacious (6/8/2008) your welcome aboard anytime!haha hell yea is that robert whibbs on your boat lol?
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O.K. So we got Midnight Run in, the great Sam Roberts, Bodacious, Downtime. Anybody else??? Anybody heard from Xanadu???????? Sorry to get the thread deraliled, but when people Try to give advice they better know damn well what they are talking about with first hand experience and not seen it on ESPN with Povermo, Isaacs, and Wejebe. By the way anybody out there that is a racist, Wejebe and I are from the same country or how about the same town. A little town on the Northern coast of Cuba called Sagua. Sagua La Grande is the river that runs down to it. You ever heard of Ernest Hemingway? But then again, of cours you have because you fish with 400 lb. dacron line and J hooks like he did or is it down to 130lb mono?? I can't remember. Keep killing these fish with your J hooks and won't have anymore kill tournaments. Anybody heard of Bay Pointe? Good night.
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Aren't you a self centered self rightous little...feller. What makes you think I saw my stuff on TV? I learned by trial and error. I repeat, I was trying to lighten things up. You don't like it, tough shit. I'll put my experience against yours any time. I have had good days and bad. You put enough time in out there and thats the way it goes. God, if you're so damn good, why ain't you running away with the winnings on the boards. I don't recall seeing you there. I may not be a "pro" like you, but I do love to go out there and give it my best shot. And I am not of the "kill em' all" school. I could give a shit where you grew up. I was raised in Jay Florida, right here. I don't have to piggy back on other peoples names. Lighten up kiddo....
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legalhookin (6/8/2008) Iwould like the original request of the post to continue..........I just bought a tld 20 and a purple and black yozuri toadd to my arsinal. would like to know how to rig the other lures also. do you also put wire on the other lures? will wire turn off the mahi? how picky are the black fins about the wire? please continue the original thread. would be very usfull info with this being the beginning of the season and all. seen alot of mahi busting on the last few trips out. I fish from a small boat and my longer distance trips out are not that common. Would apreciate the help, thank you.
That TLD 20 might be under a bit of strain with a big bonita on the troll, but it'll work. Perhaps use a rubber band to tie it to the lower part of the rod or reel handle to take the tip bounce out of the equation. Now, like I said before about the Bonitas, I don't use wire. Heavy mono works great and I've had Bonitas long enough to get entirely chewed through without losing one to bite offs. It does happen, but not very often. As was posted by others, trolling lures that ride up th eleader will get bitten off if you find a school of hooters so I tend to use 5' of cable on them and a longer mono shock leader. I've never caught many dolphin on trolling plugs, but I don't usually pull them. Don't know if its the wire or that they're more likely to eat other lures in the spread. Tuna don't usually hit a bonita with cable, wire on heavy mono.
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O.K. So we got Midnight Run in, the great Sam Roberts, Bodacious, Downtime. Anybody else??? Anybody heard from Xanadu???????? Sorry to get the thread deraliled, but when people Try to give advice they better know damn well what they are talking about with first hand experience and not seen it on ESPN with Povermo, Isaacs, andWejebe. By the way anybody out there that is a racist, Wejebe and I are from the same country or how about the same town. A little town on the Northern coast of Cuba called Sagua. Sagua La Grande is the river that runs down to it. You ever heard of Ernest Hemingway? But then again, of cours you have because you fish with 400 lb. dacron line and J hooks like he did or is it down to 130lb mono?? I can't remember. Keep killing these fish with your J hooks and won't have anymore kill tournaments. Anybody heard of Bay Pointe? Good night. 
Wow. All I really can say is Wow. You really are a piece of work. You've name dropped Marcus Kennedy, Tommy and now Jose and, frankly, I would be willing to be you don't know any of those people and if you do, they don't like you. It's obvious that you are a drunken illiterate jackass. On this very thread you've been logged as trying to get a kid fired, leaving a kid in a car while you went to a casino and giving bad advice. Now, I see your readin n rightin aint so good, but Wow.
You came out and gave useless non-advice about boat handling to someone asking about wire for Bonitas. You've put yourself out as some conservationist outboard messiah yet you weighed in a freaking Barracuda today. Wow. And, here's the kicker. I am a gambler and I would love to bet you, but I know just from your manner here that you're not man enough to follow through or pay when you lose. And here you're talking about aggregate weight in the PBGFC tourney on the same thread where you accuse anyone with diesels of being anti environment. Are you planning on loading the weigh in with 65 chicken dolphin or catching a blue marlin?
Anyway, I'm sorry this thread got whacked out and I've given as good advice as I can. Maybe outboard king can give you something better. As far as circle hooks, tuna tubes and kites go, well you got me there. I wouldn't know any of it from a hole in the ground. Give me a couple moldcrafts and some store bought double hook rigs and I'm happy as a pig in slop.
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flyliner (6/7/2008) wow, this has really turned into a thread of sorts
we catch a lot of wahoo, not wehoos but some pretty nice ones, every winter in the islands. we target them pretty much and we use fairly short cable leader on 50 or 80 lb gear. as Xanadu said wahoo fishing is not brain surgery. in reality its really mackerel fishing, only the macks can be much bigger. my thought is a longer leader, as in significantly longer than the wahoo, results in your jet head, islander, or any other common trolling plug that is able to slid up the leader, ending up well behind the hooked fish, stuffed up against the swivel, being pulled through the water at a pretty good rate. nice scenario for another wahoo to eat that bait and cut you off, it DOES happen. we tend to keep our cable leader while TARGETING wahoo no longer than about five feet so that it is at the tail or just behind the tail of the fish on his run. it prevents tail whipping and you don't have a plug 15 feet behind a running fish. above the swivel is 20 or so feet of wind on mono leader of either 300 or 400.
the original post that started this was a request looking for information about how to set up a leader and what works for various people. the initial posts where what the guy was looking for and then it went downhill.
if you don't have something informative, or at least constructive, why take the effort to post it, unless your goal is to start a tit for tat bs string
Pat thanks for stepping in here and setting the story straight. Hell maybe I will bring my little Jupiter down there to the Emerald Coast Classic so I can buy you a beer at the Capt. meeting. Thanks for all of the work you to on the Florida Fishing Report. And what I was attempting your buddy Xanadu that in a small boat when that wahoo makes that run at the boat I would rather not gun it straight forward and throw everybody out of the boat. 
You know the funniest post on this thread is this one. Evidently, you didn't get that he was agreeing with me, offering additional information and talking about you.
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O.K. So we got Midnight Run in, the great Sam Roberts, Bodacious, Downtime. Anybody else??? Anybody heard from Xanadu???????? Sorry to get the thread deraliled, but when people Try to give advice they better know damn well what they are talking about with first hand experience and not seen it on ESPN with Povermo, Isaacs, andWejebe. By the way anybody out there that is a racist, Wejebe and I are from the same country or how about the same town. A little town on the Northern coast of Cuba called Sagua. Sagua La Grande is the river that runs down to it. You ever heard of Ernest Hemingway? But then again, of cours you have because you fish with 400 lb. dacron line and J hooks like he did or is it down to 130lb mono?? I can't remember. Keep killing these fish with your J hooks and won't have anymore kill tournaments. Anybody heard of Bay Pointe? Good night.  Wow. All I really can say is Wow. You really are a piece of work. You've name dropped Marcus Kennedy, Tommy and now Jose and, frankly, I would be willing to be you don't know any of those people and if you do, they don't like you. It's obvious that you are a drunken illiterate jackass. On this very thread you've been logged as trying to get a kid fired, leaving a kid in a car while you went to a casino and giving bad advice. Now, I see your readin n rightin aint so good, but Wow. You came out and gave useless non-advice about boat handling to someone asking about wire for Bonitas. You've put yourself out as some conservationist outboard messiah yet you weighed in a freaking Barracuda today. Wow. And, here's the kicker. I am a gambler and I would love to bet you, but I know just from your manner here that you're not man enough to follow through or pay when you lose. And here you're talking about aggregate weight in the PBGFC tourney on the same thread where you accuse anyone with diesels of being anti environment. Are you planning on loading the weigh in with 65 chicken dolphin or catching a blue marlin? Anyway, I'm sorry this thread got whacked out and I've given as good advice as I can. Maybe outboard king can give you something better. As far as circle hooks, tuna tubes and kites go, well you got me there. I wouldn't know any of it from a hole in the ground. Give me a couple moldcrafts and some store bought double hook rigs and I'm happy as a pig in slop. xandu he says he nice ppl...who told him that? did i mention he tried getting me fired? when i worked at daybreak he was telling me and some other employee a story about him catching a 50#+ king mackeral and it lost 15# pound because he caught him before sun light and he said he would have won the SKA... i could catch a 60+ fish and leave it on the pier all day and still would not lose 15# and him driving a vessel that out of the question...he would wreck and inboard diesel
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Feeding Frenzy (6/7/2008)
flyliner (6/7/2008) wow, this has really turned into a thread of sorts
we catch a lot of wahoo, not wehoos but some pretty nice ones, every winter in the islands. we target them pretty much and we use fairly short cable leader on 50 or 80 lb gear. as Xanadu said wahoo fishing is not brain surgery. in reality its really mackerel fishing, only the macks can be much bigger. my thought is a longer leader, as in significantly longer than the wahoo, results in your jet head, islander, or any other common trolling plug that is able to slid up the leader, ending up well behind the hooked fish, stuffed up against the swivel, being pulled through the water at a pretty good rate. nice scenario for another wahoo to eat that bait and cut you off, it DOES happen. we tend to keep our cable leader while TARGETING wahoo no longer than about five feet so that it is at the tail or just behind the tail of the fish on his run. it prevents tail whipping and you don't have a plug 15 feet behind a running fish. above the swivel is 20 or so feet of wind on mono leader of either 300 or 400.
the original post that started this was a request looking for information about how to set up a leader and what works for various people. the initial posts where what the guy was looking for and then it went downhill.
if you don't have something informative, or at least constructive, why take the effort to post it, unless your goal is to start a tit for tat bs stringPat thanks for stepping in here and setting the story straight. Hell maybe I will bring my little Jupiter down there to the Emerald Coast Classic so I can buy you a beer at the Capt. meeting. Thanks for all of the work you to on the Florida Fishing Report. And what I was attempting your buddy Xanadu that in a small boat when that wahoo makes that run at the boat I would rather not gun it straight forward and throw everybody out of the boat.  You know the funniest post on this thread is this one. Evidently, you didn't get that he was agreeing with me, offering additional information and talking about you. OK let's get the story straight the fish weighed 40lbs. When we threw it in the boat in about 2 minutes with your buddy on the Spencer on the rod. I hadn't kingfished in about 3 years. We caught the fish at 9:30 in the morning 25 miles offshore. Both fish bags were full of 30 lbers had to throw 2 little ones back just to make room for this one. We had NO ice by 11:00 because somebody forgot to throw another 40lbs of ice on the boat at 5:00am So we went snapper fishing the rest of the day showed up 2nd boat at the scales before they opened. Drinking warm rum by this time. Never put the fish on a hand scale while we were out there so figured he would have gone 50-55 since we could barely get him in the fish bag. We had gone through 12 ribbonfish. Oh, did I tell you about the 200lb bull shark your buddy spencer fought for an hour wasting time on 20lb test. We really wish you would go play somewhere else, especially since you are so worried about you career pumping gas.
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