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| Went to the fish house last night to have a drink and decided to stay for dinner. The special was Blue Marlin so I told the manager he was an idiot and walked out. Hate that I won't ever be able to go back.
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Trigger
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| Good for you...I'd have done the same. There's just no good reason to harvest Marlin for table fare regardless of what some folks will tell you about the taste. Harry
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| I would have ordered it and tried it, It's suppose to be good Blue marlin is eaten all around the world
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surely, he was kidding. if they are serving that on the menu, they need to have their a** kicked. you would think mr.merrill is smarter than that. 
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That sucks that they would stoop to the level of third world countries! When I fish in Mexico(non-tourists areas) they haul it in like it was speckled trout. Nothing against people eating what they have to if they have no choice, but there are alot of species out there to eat other than the depleted ones. I read alot about our hap-hazzard efforts on marine conservation. It's just not working, it seems the only ones that are truly concerned about conservation are the sportfishing community and marine biology professionals. I guess if the politicians had a chance to go out to the last frontier and view these majestic beast in their environment they would put forth a more concerted effort to preserve our fisheries for our grandchildren. Unfortunately some pelagics killed or die during the fight in sportfishing. I have no problem with donating that meat to nonprofit organizations to feed the hungry, but to put in on the menu of one of the most popular restaurants in P'cola is shameful. Sorry for the rant, I am passonite about this subject! Hopefully it is not true that Jim and those guys would really do this, if they did not, please except my apologies for the negative comments.
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Looks like I'm going to the Fish House tonight.
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| Sorry it is true. Plan on calling Burney tomorrow and asking him what the F---.
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Fist of all, I doubt that they killed a Blue Marlin for the sole purpose of table fare. I would find out where the fish came from before ridiculing the place. The fish could have been dead when it came to the boat, then donated to a local restaurant. Just my 2 cents.
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I will call today also and express my disapproval as well. I hate that, We go there once a week and I ALWAYS have the special. If it's true, any suggestions on a new favorite spot.  BD
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Hammertime (7/20/2008)
... it seems the only ones that are truly concerned about conservation are the sportfishing community and marine biology professionals...which marine biology professionals? the ones that support building habitat and conducting meaningful studies to try to fully understand what's really going on, or the ones that want to close all fishing, stop all habitat development and close snapper season because the bass fishermen down south are reporting dismal catches of red snapper?
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Grouper
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someone explain why its so bad to kill a Blue Marlin? If the restaurant had fresh Swordfish I bet you guys would eat it. Why is a Marlin any different than a Sword? Tuna? Snapper?
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| Go to Carrabba's, they have very good fish specials everynight, great side dishes and are much cheaper than fish house!! Also one my my favorite places to get a steak thats on the cheaper end... They can cook a damn good steak! Go in there and tell the manager Todd that Jim and Josh sent you and he'll buy your dessert!!
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with the regs on everything else getting more and more strict, you are gonna see more marlin being brought to the dock. if people go out and cant keep any snapper or other bottom fish, there gonna bring in something else.
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Gump (7/20/2008)
Fist of all, I doubt that they killed a Blue Marlin for the sole purpose of table fare. I would find out where the fish came from before ridiculing the place. The fish could have been dead when it came to the boat, then donated to a local restaurant. Just my 2 cents.
It is illegal to sell Atlantic or Gulf Blue Marlin under any circumstances. This fish would have had to come from the Pacific or they're breaking the law. Whatever the case, it's bullshit for them to be selling it. Burney, I'm sure, doesn't know what is on the menu, but your call, Jeremy, will probably keep it from ever happening again.
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Did not realize that it was illegal to sell, I should have researched it more before posting.
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no offence guys, but y'all need to go get a box of tissues.... or some midol...
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Ruby Red Lip
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| Basic Supply and Demand.....sounds like some of you need to join P.E.T.A or better yet just tree hug the weigh in scales when the next billfishing tournament comes around.
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| calling the manager an idiot, especially since he doesnt plan the menu, should get alot accomplished... way to go.
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Xanadu (7/20/2008)
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It is illegal to sell Atlantic or Gulf Blue Marlin under any circumstances. This fish would have had to come from the Pacific or they're breaking the law. Whatever the case, it's bullshit for them to be selling it. Burney, I'm sure, doesn't know what is on the menu, but your call, Jeremy, will probably keep it from ever happening again.Why is it bullshit for them to be selling it? You haven't ever cared about bottom fish, and you've badgered the guys trying to save the snapper fishery, but now that it's Marlin you're gonna get upset?
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Xanadu (7/20/2008)
Gump (7/20/2008)
Fist of all, I doubt that they killed a Blue Marlin for the sole purpose of table fare. I would find out where the fish came from before ridiculing the place. The fish could have been dead when it came to the boat, then donated to a local restaurant. Just my 2 cents.It is illegal to sell Atlantic or Gulf Blue Marlin under any circumstances. This fish would have had to come from the Pacific or they're breaking the law. Whatever the case, it's bullshit for them to be selling it. Burney, I'm sure, doesn't know what is on the menu, but your call, Jeremy, will probably keep it from ever happening again. So if the fish was cought in the Pacific during a tournament and was weighted in or if the fish died during the fight would it be bullshit to sell the fish to eat or let the fish sit on the dock and spoil. If the fish is dead why let it waste, there is not enough info to this story to know all the facts, I agree its a shame to kill a beautiful creature like a blue but if it is dead why discrace it by letting the meat go to shit. Thats like going out and shooting a deer cutting the horns off and leaving the body there to rot.
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| God forbid they serve fish at...ummm, the fish house..... Everytime you guys go into the gulf and fish for blue marlin there is a chance that you are going to catch one and that by doing it you are going to kill it. If it dies during the fight or whatever what do you do with it? Bring it home and eat it? Seems to me that even 8 people on a boat would not be able to eat #400 of Marlin. So, what do you do with what's left over? Give it away????? How many ways do you split up a blue? I wonder how much of that fish goes bad in someones freezer or even ends up in a fish dip. I think you guys need to get over it. Seems to me if they are this endangered you guys should stop fishing for them. Should probably let the restaraunt explain where they got it, if they feel the need to, before trashing them out. No one even has the full story and you guys are going nuts, It's probably Tilapia anyway....
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God forbid they serve fish at...ummm, the fish house..... It's probably Tilapia anyway.... Thats funny, 
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wishiniwasfishin07 (7/20/2008)
someone explain why its so bad to kill a Blue Marlin? If the restaurant had fresh Swordfish I bet you guys would eat it. Why is a Marlin any different than a Sword? Tuna? Snapper?
I've got no problem killing a blue, but not for sale. Making it part of the market would take us back to the days where it was tolerated for longliners to catch them and sell them. Swordfish, however, are completely different. There are many, many more of them. They grow faster and with the removal of longliners from our area, the population has come back very strong. Despite the millions of tons of tuna taken each year, with proper management, they are a sustainable resource.
Look at it this way, there are probably 100 times more swords than marlin and a million times more tuna than marlin. Red Snapper are like pieces of sand at the beach by comparison and for those of you who are mad at snapper limits and overfishing, you should take the time to understand what would happen to snapper regs adn populations if they were granted gamefish status and removed from the market.
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It is illegal to sell Atlantic or Gulf Blue Marlin under any circumstances. This fish would have had to come from the Pacific or they're breaking the law. Whatever the case, it's bullshit for them to be selling it. Burney, I'm sure, doesn't know what is on the menu, but your call, Jeremy, will probably keep it from ever happening again.Why is it bullshit for them to be selling it? You haven't ever cared about bottom fish, and you've badgered the guys trying to save the snapper fishery, but now that it's Marlin you're gonna get upset?
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Obviously, this is a complex issue and some here aren't following it.
1. It is illegal to sell blue marlin caught in the gulf or atlantic.
2. It is legal to sell blues caught in the Pacific and it is common in Hawaii.
3. I have no problem killing one or eating one though I do tag and release.
The problem here is selling one. If the fish was locally caught and killed, it would be illegal for them to sell it. I bet they bought it frozen from the Pacific and there is nothing illegal about it. However, selling them is making them something someone might want. This would perhaps create demand for a fish that has been in decreasing number and granted "gamefish" status by the NMFS and made illegal to sell.
So, why would the Fish House sell frozen fish shipped 6000 miles from Hawaii? I don't know, but I prefer my fish fresher. And, as for whoever it was that brought up snapper regs, you're right. I don't fish for them. I have, however, offered to donate a keg to help get you guys some turnout. I've also suggested many times that you should request game fish status for snapper so they're not being given to commercial guys at recreational fishermen's expense. That strategy has worked for redfish and kings and would work for Red Snapper.
Aside from all that, I can't imagine wtf is actually going on with Snapper Regs. They seem so wrong that I suspect there is some collusion behind the scenes that will eventually be exposed.
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| The Marlin in question was imported fresh through a local purveyor. The Marlin came from Ecuador.... all 20 lbs. of it.
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20lbs of marlin!!!.... wow, i tink some people have already shed 20 gallons of tears over this... BTW, who knows the next time they have it.... i'm gonna go get some!
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20lbs of marlin!!!.... wow, i tink some people have already shed 20 gallons of tears over this...
BTW, who knows the next time they have it.... i'm gonna go get some!
Kind of what I thought although I'm pretty sure the Fish House will never again put it on their menu. Does that stop the problem? Not one bit. I fished Los Suenos CR earlier this year and there were 3 long liners parked in front of the resort when we got there and several more offshore that were visible while trolling. Our tally for the trip was noticeably less than when we fished Guatemala the year prior (Guatemala banned long lining 10 years ago). The Captains were all bitching about it and it obviously was hurting their fishery. The only Billfish I ever killed was a Sailfish off the Pacific side of Mexico near Zihuat. It swallowed a bait and got crossed up in a bunch of lines and pretty much ripped his gills out by the time we got him to the boat. We could have fed him to the sharks but decided to fillet instead. Made some excellent ceviche. Would not kill one on purpose but I respect the right to do so as long as it is consumed. If you really want to help the cause, join the Billfish Foundation or contact your local representatives to pressure foreign countries to ban longlining. I think Greenpeace also rams these boats so that would be an option for some of you. I'm going to kill some scallops in Steinhatchee tommorow so please do not trash me if I show pics of the slaughter. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, James
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Xanadu (7/20/2008)
Obviously, this is a complex issue and some here aren't following it.
1. It is illegal to sell blue marlin caught in the gulf or atlantic.
2. It is legal to sell blues caught in the Pacific and it is common in Hawaii.
3. I have no problem killing one or eating one though I do tag and release.
The problem here is selling one. If the fish was locally caught and killed, it would be illegal for them to sell it. I bet they bought it frozen from the Pacific and there is nothing illegal about it. However, selling them is making them something someone might want. This would perhaps create demand for a fish that has been in decreasing number and granted "gamefish" status by the NMFS and made illegal to sell.
So, why would the Fish House sell frozen fish shipped 6000 miles from Hawaii? I don't know, but I prefer my fish fresher. And, as for whoever it was that brought up snapper regs, you're right. I don't fish for them. I have, however, offered to donate a keg to help get you guys some turnout. I've also suggested many times that you should request game fish status for snapper so they're not being given to commercial guys at recreational fishermen's expense. That strategy has worked for redfish and kings and would work for Red Snapper.
Aside from all that, I can't imagine wtf is actually going on with Snapper Regs. They seem so wrong that I suspect there is some collusion behind the scenes that will eventually be exposed.Fresh fish flys daily on the airlines..................
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