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Posted 8/7/2008 10:34:51 PM
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Anyone how many cranking amps I need for a 225hp 1994 Johnson? Starter doesnt engage, pulled it apart, seems to function properly. Wondering if I am not getting enough of battery to the starter to engage the flywheel. Just put in a new Optima Blue top, figured that would be enough. Its charged up too. Thanks ahead of time.

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Posted 8/7/2008 10:52:24 PM


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Is the starter bendix (part with the gear) moving up the shaft shaft towards the flywheel at all when the starter is spinning?

Check all connections, and I will assume you installed the battery correctly?

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:21:23 AM
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No the bendex doesnt come up at all. I think I am losing power somewhere from the battery to the starter. Its an older boat, just bought it, there is some corrosion on the terminal leads and such. Also had a problem with the Persko switch but I made my way past that yesterday, but there may be some unseen corrosion inside that. I took the starter apart to be sure the bendex wasnt frozen up. She is good to go but it seems like I am not getting enough power to spin it up to the flywheel.

So this morning I am going to clean all that corrosion off, ensure my wires are tight on the battery, if that doesnt work I need a new persko switch anyway, if that doesnt work then possibly a starter. I need to test to see if I am getting enough juice to the starter or simply take it in to get tested. I dont have a volt meter (christmas list!!)


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Posted 8/8/2008 8:27:01 AM


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If all connections are good, the brushes in the starter may be bad which equals buying a new starter. 

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:33:46 AM


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Without any test equipment, you are on the right track. Narrow it down till you can't any longer.

  

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:36:58 AM


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Test by by-passing everything but the starter. Take a KNOWN good battery and a GOOD set of jumper cables and test the starter on the engine. When doing the test use the starter itself as the ground, not the engine. Can you move the starter gear up the shaft using your hand/fingers? How fast is the starter itself spinning?

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:40:50 AM
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Yes, I can move the starter up the shaft by hand, and it seems to be pinning pretty good to me, its whirring away.

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:52:04 AM


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weatherman (8/8/2008)
Yes, I can move the starter up the shaft by hand, and it seems to be pinning pretty good to me, its whirring away.

Could be the bendix gear is broken/striped out. 

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Posted 8/8/2008 8:58:03 AM
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All right guys, easy fix here.... Make sure you have the wing nuts on the battery tight.....

That was about 2 wasted hours but fun troubleshooting anyway. I am still going to clean that corrosion and swap the persko switch out.

Makes me wonder if I need to have a spare starter though in the boat, what do you guys think? Thanks for the help!! I will have some trim questions later. He he


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Posted 8/8/2008 9:07:10 AM


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weatherman (8/7/2008)
Anyone how many cranking amps I need for a 225hp 1994 Johnson? Starter doesnt engage, pulled it apart, seems to function properly. Wondering if I am not getting enough of battery to the starter to engage the flywheel. Just put in a new Optima Blue top, figured that would be enough. Its charged up too. Thanks ahead of time.

If you are not too far away, take the starter to Southern Generator on Stweart Street in Milton. He can rebuild it for you too if needed.

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Posted 8/8/2008 9:13:28 AM


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Tuna Man (8/7/2008)
Check all connections, and I will assume you installed the battery correctly?

Had a forum friend call me a couple of weeks ago with the SAME problem. Come to find out that sometime before he called me he had taken his starter off and failed to tighten up the hot lead on the starter after re instillation. He checked all connections and found the problem. MOST starter problems can be traced back to faulty connections, not all but most. Glad you only spent two hours, and not much dollars. By the way, if you feel you may have starter problems in the future, go ahead and have a rebuilt done. You CAN'T carry every spare part and tools that you MIGHT need on the water. Hence Sea Tow, or the like.

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Posted 8/9/2008 7:35:34 AM


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weatherman (8/8/2008)
All right guys, easy fix here.... Make sure you have the wing nuts on the battery tight.....

Thanks for the help!! I will have some trim questions later. He he

As in.....

1) Stabilization of a boat?

2) Upholstery on the boat?

3) As in the movie 48 hours?

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Posted 8/10/2008 11:54:13 AM
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Ha ha, as in number 1, the boat came with trim tabs but they do not function.

Man, I am rolling over here.....


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Posted 8/10/2008 11:55:14 AM
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By the way, I changed out the perko switch, cleaned a bunch of corrosion off of the wires and the battery is installed correctly and everything works fine, for now....

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Posted 8/10/2008 12:13:36 PM


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weatherman (8/10/2008)
Ha ha, as in number 1, the boat came with trim tabs but they do not function.

Man, I am rolling over here.....

Now that we are on the right track..Type (make) and hydraulic or electric?

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Posted 8/12/2008 2:18:22 PM
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Its a trim master and its electric, I think.....

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