|
|
|
Snapper
 
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
Have any of yall tried to change the color of your lens on the metal halide or halogen fixtures? I know the HPS fixtures put out more of a yellow colored light while the MH or halogens are more of a white light. Is this the reason they possibly cut the murkier water better (yellow colored light)? Kind of like using amber lensed glasses.
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Snapper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
Come on guys I know some of yall have an opinion on this.
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 2,216,
Visits: 8,684
|
|
i run halos on my rig and have never tried a different color lense. i can see where it would make sense but dont have any experiance with it to say if it will work or not. one way to find out...try it and see
Jonathan Jones 2005 Triton 173sport 1984 SeaRay 210 
|
|
|
|
|
Ruby Red Lip
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 9:38:42 PM
Posts: 57,
Visits: 880
|
|
My fishing partner recently swapped to HPS lights. I don't know about changing the lenses on Halogens but I know I LOVE his HPS lights. I hate fishing with him now b/c I don't want to use my boat anymore. Those HPS lights are the real deal! I'm not sure if its the color of the light that helps the HPS lights cut dirty water better or not but they are worth the money in my opinion. By the way, I'd be interested to see the results if you give the expieriment a try!!
"When the sun drops, the BS stops."
|
|
|
|
|
Snapper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
| I pulled this off a website..... Metal Halide vs. High Pressure Sodium Metal halide lighting differs from High Pressure Sodium (HPS) in the color and quality of light delivered. Metal halide is a highly efficient light source capable of delivering a white light in the range of 2700 to 5500 Kelvin with typical CRIs in the mid-60s to mid-70s. Some lamp chemistries even obtain CRIs in the 80s. In contrast, high pressure sodium lamps yield yellow lighting (2200K) and have a very poor color rendering index of 22. HPS lamps are available in color-corrected versions that shorten their life and only slightly improve color temperature. Even with greatly improved CRIs, the color temperature still delivers yellow light. This color limitation is present because the HPS lamp generates light through the excitation of sodium. Metal halide lamps, on the other hand, generate light through the excitation of 2 to 5 different chemicals in the arc tube. In addition, the exclusive Uni-Form formed body arc tube is a newly-designed, compact light source sculpted to follow the physical shape of the arc itself. The precise geometry of this unique arc tube, accurately reproducible from lamp to lamp, produces a metal halide lamp of greater efficiency, improved color uniformity, and longer life. By varying the blend of chemicals in the arc tube, metal halide engineers are able to alter the characteristics of the light output. This flexibility in design makes metal halide so versatile. White light is a very important attribute of metal halide technology, because it is the closest to the natural sunlight that people prefer. A number of independent research projects compare each option under low light levels and provide solid, reliable information to support the concept that the color of light strongly influences human perception. In fact, the sensitivity of the eye to different colors determines the true or effective lumen output of a lamp. The visual effectiveness of white metal halide light with a high blue/green content is shown to increase in reduced light while it decreases for the yellow light of sodium sources. High pressure sodium has been used for years in less color critical applications such as parking lot and roadway lighting. Applications more sensitive to color have used metal halide. The availability of lower wattage metal halide lamps and the revolutionary Uni-Form pulse start system technology has greatly increased its application in indoor and outside commercial and industrial environments. Many applications, such as security and parking garage lighting, now use metal halide instead of HPS. HPS is used today mainly in areas where color temperature and color rendition are less important (i.e. warehouses, street lighting, security lighting). Metal halide is applicable in a wide range of commercial, industrial and municipal spaces and offers an excellent quality of light. Studies show that people generally prefer to work and live in a white light environment, a fact that itself explains the dramatic shift toward metal halide. http://www.venturelighting.com/techcenter/lamps/metal_halide_101.htm
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Snapper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
| Here's a little something I found that has the information for the wattage of the light with the lumens it puts out. http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/nelpag/lamps.html
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Trigger
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/17/2010 2:20:07 PM
Posts: 359,
Visits: 1,696
|
|
The lens on the hps lights are clear just like the halos, the light makes the difference in the color. I would think any type of color on a halo lens would burn off, the halos get 800 degrees in seconds.
|
|
|
|
|
Snapper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
I was thinking more on the line of colored glass, not tinted.
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Grouper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 8:28:26 PM
Posts: 902,
Visits: 2,310
|
|
Changing the color of the lens would probably make a difference. I used to run halos but never tried any colored filters. I would like to hear the results from anybody who has tried this or is planning to try it. As I have said before the halos will work fine but one of the main reasons I swapped to HPS is because of they only draw a fraction of the amperage of halos and run a hell of a lot cooler, not to mention their benefits in less than perfect water conditions. I can now run all night on 1 gallon of gas in the genny compared to about 4-5 with the halos. This took a tremendous strain off of the generator and in the long run will probably prolong its life as well. Not to mention that the noise from the generator is nothing more than a hum compared to its previuos roar!!!
"SHARP GIGS AND TIGHT RIGS"
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Yesterday @ 11:54:48 AM
Posts: 1,912,
Visits: 4,554
|
|
Do you guys think if a colored glass was available to replace the factory ones in our Halogens, would it reduce the life of them as in fishinfever's article?
"Fish Like You're Hungry!""Eat More Fish!" 
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 2,216,
Visits: 8,684
|
|
the colored glass is not going to have any effect of the lifespan of the bulbs. what the article is talking about is a special bulb for the HPS lights that puts out a more white light instead of the amber light and the bulb itself has a shorter lifespan. atleast thats my understanding of it.
Jonathan Jones 2005 Triton 173sport 1984 SeaRay 210
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Yesterday @ 11:54:48 AM
Posts: 1,912,
Visits: 4,554
|
|
That makes sense. The guy that bought my 12v lights told me to wear my Costas or any polorized glasses and it should cut the glare. I would think you might not see a Flounder or two doing that. Do you guys think it would comprimise the vision?
"Fish Like You're Hungry!""Eat More Fish!"
|
|
|
|
|
Grouper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 8:28:26 PM
Posts: 902,
Visits: 2,310
|
|
I have already tried that just to see what it was like. Result: couldn't see shit!!!
"SHARP GIGS AND TIGHT RIGS"
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 2,216,
Visits: 8,684
|
|
Five Prongs Of Fury (8/12/2008)
I have already tried that just to see what it was like. Result: couldn't see shit!!!LMAO!!! i was wondering about that....wearing sunglasses as night just didnt make much sense to me...glad to have that confirmed now
Jonathan Jones 2005 Triton 173sport 1984 SeaRay 210
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: Yesterday @ 11:54:48 AM
Posts: 1,912,
Visits: 4,554
|
|
Thats what I was thinking it would be like too!
"Fish Like You're Hungry!""Eat More Fish!"
|
|
|
|
|
Grouper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 8:28:26 PM
Posts: 902,
Visits: 2,310
|
|
They cut out the glare from Ultraviolet light, not Incandescent light. Not to mention its like sticking your head in a bag!!!
"SHARP GIGS AND TIGHT RIGS"
|
|
|
|
|
Ruby Red Lip
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 9:38:42 PM
Posts: 57,
Visits: 880
|
|
Five Prongs Of Fury (8/12/2008)
I have already tried that just to see what it was like. Result: couldn't see shit!!!Five Prongs, You have GOT to promise that you'll wear your sunglasses the next time we go!! I promise not to laugh (too much). That way maybe you'll stop stealing fish off my side of the boat. J/K
"When the sun drops, the BS stops."
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 11:34:54 AM
Posts: 1,958,
Visits: 6,146
|
|
Shiznik (8/12/2008)
That makes sense. The guy that bought my 12v lights told me to wear my Costas or any polorized glasses and it should cut the glare. I would think you might not see a Flounder or two doing that. Do you guys think it would comprimise the vision?
I haven't done it, but a buddy of mine did on my boat.
He said he could see much better, but here is the difference.
He used polarized Yellow shooting glasses.
---------------------------------------------------------
"Just cause it's new, doesn't mean it's worth a Damn."
Pensacola, Fl
Custom 23ft Mako Pilothouse w/ twin DF-140 Suzuki's
162 Scout w/ C-90 Yamaha
1860 SeaArk w/ DF-70 Suzuki
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 2,216,
Visits: 8,684
|
|
X-Shark (8/13/2008)
Shiznik (8/12/2008)
That makes sense. The guy that bought my 12v lights told me to wear my Costas or any polorized glasses and it should cut the glare. I would think you might not see a Flounder or two doing that. Do you guys think it would comprimise the vision?I haven't done it, but a buddy of mine did on my boat. He said he could see much better, but here is the difference. He used polarized Yellow shooting glasses. the yellow lenses make much more sense then darker sun glasses.
Jonathan Jones 2005 Triton 173sport 1984 SeaRay 210
|
|
|
|
|
Grouper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/10/2010 8:28:26 PM
Posts: 902,
Visits: 2,310
|
|
FlounderAssassin (8/13/2008)
X-Shark (8/13/2008)
Shiznik (8/12/2008)
That makes sense. The guy that bought my 12v lights told me to wear my Costas or any polorized glasses and it should cut the glare. I would think you might not see a Flounder or two doing that. Do you guys think it would comprimise the vision?I haven't done it, but a buddy of mine did on my boat. He said he could see much better, but here is the difference. He used polarized Yellow shooting glasses. the yellow lenses make much more sense then darker sun glasses. Now that yall mention it, years ago my daddy bought a pair of night driving glasses that had yellow lenses like shooting glasses. Supposed to help with headlight glare. If I remember correctly he said that they did help a little but everything was to YELLOW!!! But keep in mind that these were not high dollar glasses. I think that they came off of the dollar rack at a convenience store so you couldn't expect much. A pair of good shooting glasses might help.
"SHARP GIGS AND TIGHT RIGS"
|
|
|
|
|
Snapper
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 3/14/2010 3:16:50 PM
Posts: 518,
Visits: 2,164
|
|
I know alot of you guys have been concerned with the amp draw of the HPS. If you can get the multi-tap ballast you could actually run those lights on 240v instead of 120v. This will cut your amp draw in half.
Richard Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something. Plato
|
|
|
|
|
Sailfish
Group: Forum Members
Last Login: 2 days ago @ 9:34:46 PM
Posts: 2,216,
Visits: 8,684
|
|
fishnfever (8/13/2008)
I know alot of you guys have been concerned with the amp draw of the HPS. If you can get the multi-tap ballast you could actually run those lights on 240v instead of 120v. This will cut your amp draw in half.a lot of us run the 2000w inverter generators that dont put out 240v. but i have been reading where a lot are running caps and that cuts the amp draw down considerably!
Jonathan Jones 2005 Triton 173sport 1984 SeaRay 210
|
|