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I donated $365 to Chandlers auction via Joe Crocker of Milton who was auctioning a plane ride. Shiznick or Chandler never received the funds. Anyone who knows this putz please let him know he has till Jan. 1 2009 to make good on this donation or I will seeking assistance from the Santa Rosa Police Dept. and/or other means necessary to right this situation. Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year.
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| I'm sure you did but... I hope you tried to contact him privately before you blasted him on here. Surely it's a mix-up, he sounded good for it when the original post started. Good luck.
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| Mitch, I hope you find him/get your money back.. capt.. from what i've heard/read theres been a few ways they've been trying to get ahold of him...
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| Sea Capt...look back a month....Wade isnt the only one...repaerated attempts. Hope he does the right thing
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I'm sure you did but... I hope you tried to contact him privately before you blasted him on here. Surely it's a mix-up, he sounded good for it when the original post started. Good luck. Seacpt, I was not born yesterday, The putz is in hiding.
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I'm sure you did but... I hope you tried to contact him privately before you blasted him on here. Surely it's a mix-up, he sounded good for it when the original post started. Good luck. Seacpt, I was not born yesterday, The putz is in hiding. Also hiding from Murphyslaw...Joel.
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Tuna Man (12/27/2008)
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I'm sure you did but... I hope you tried to contact him privately before you blasted him on here. Surely it's a mix-up, he sounded good for it when the original post started. Good luck. Seacpt, I was not born yesterday, The putz is in hiding. Also hiding from Murphyslaw...Joel. yep...how can you steel from a chairty for an 8 year old with cancer and still sleep at night??? some people  
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I bumped the other 2 threads back up so that if anyone missed it they will now know whats going on and understand the reason for this thread
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I helped this guy out by towing a boat for him and he seemed like an ok dude. Then he started to offer the plane ride auction thing and then dissapeared with everyone's money. We know where he did live and me and Joel (murphyslaw) tracked down the address and phone number. But the phone number had been disconected etc... This guy stole a lot of money in the name of a poor kid that had cancer. A real douchebag.
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has anyone contacted the milton airport? i pulled up the tail number thats on the plane in the picture that was posted. Its registered to a corporation out of milton. They might have more information. I'll check back with joel around the 15th of feb to see if he's found anything out. Planes need an annual every year and this one is due in the next 2 months, so they're pretty easy to track down. but my guess is that the corporation that owns this plane, is probably the people that run the flight school in milton. so its going to be a dead end other than maybe some more info to add to your report| Manufacturer: | Piper | | Model: | PA-28-160 Search all Piper PA-28-160 | | Year built: | 1962 | | Serial Number (C/N): | 28-548 | | Mode S Code: | 51570630 | | Aircraft Type: | Fixed wing single engine | | Amateur-Built: | No | | Number of Seats: | 4 | | Number of Engines: | 1 | | Engine Type: | Reciprocating | | Engine Manufacturer and Model: | Lycoming 0-320 SERIES |
Owner (FAA)| Registration Type: | Corporation | | Owner: | Zinnia Aviation Inc | | Address: | Milton, FL 32570 United States | | Region: | Southern |
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I gave that information to Joel awhile back. He was either going to call or make a trip...now that's the last that I've heard. This dirtbad needs to be de-balled.
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dang i was going to give him 2 318 engines.
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PFF angry mob? i got the pitch forks...

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This guy is a sorry piece of shit hope someone catches him. Karma is a bitch.

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You dont mess with the PFF. There is too many good people with resourses on here. This scumbag is digging a hole, he wont get out.
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| Following the airplane trail, the Zinnia Corporation lists 5656 Zinnia Ave, Milton Fl as their address. In looking at the Santa Rosa Tax Collector's website, 5656 Zinnia is a private residence owned by a couple in the state of Washington. You might want to pursue that lead. Does anyone have 38BAT's real name? I kind of doubt "Joe Crocker".
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I appreciate all the help, I believe that is his real name or at least he has a account in that name because he was able to cash Joels and my check made out to that name. 10 years ago I would be driving my truck through his front door right now, but I am going to persue him with my tax dollars and the good people at the Santa Rosa PD. I could care less about the plane ride or the money at at this point it is the fact that he took advantage of a childs illness for personal gain. I could be wrong but he might fall under the classifcation of a Predator. The one who has lost in all this is Chandler. Thanks again for all the help. I will use all info passed to me wisely.
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Theres these 2 guys going around town collecting money for "cancer". 1 GUY has long black hair, Maybe 30 yrs old About 4'5 . The other is maybe 17, almost no hair, A little taller . Im not sure what their deal is but i've seen them on the beach & in pensacola collecting money. Somethings fishy about these 2 . IF you see them call the police . I've heard from other people saying they've seen them too. They even go into bars & churches to collect.
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I bought a dirtbike from him, about a year ago. His name is Joe, not sure the last name. I will look up his address, some of you may live near him.
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There is no listing for a Zinnia Aviation with the Fla. Dept of State. There are several Joseph Crockers in the state. One in Mary Esther with a business.
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| 5656 Zinnia Ave in Milton is his address. I have been there. It was a long time ago tho. He may have moved. I think he said he was in realestate or contracting or investments or something like that. I know he was from up north somewhere. Maybe Minnisota or something. He tried some crap a while back when I tried to sell him a boat. It was in storage at a marina and I couldnt afford the storage fees anymore and he said he would buy it. I put him in touch with the marina and he tried to run a scam by trying to pay the marina to let him have it and screw me. There were some more details but that is the jist of it. The marina let me know what he tried to do. I felt like what he did to me was wrong but never would have guessed he'd stoop this low.
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Also I think it is considered a FEDERAL offence since the US mail was involved. I believe fraud by mail is a federal crime.
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| I may have missed something along the way, has anyone ever heard from Chandler or his parents? Just wondering?
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| TO THE MODERATORS: Not tryin to moan, or start mothing with whoever it was, I know you have a hard job, and I am friends with most of you...but why was my post removed where I told Backwoods he was adding insult to injury with his comments towards the guys who got burned? I didn't threaten, or cuss him out, ect....just wondering what it was that caused it to get removed? Reason I'm asking here is because I don't know which one of you it was. Again...not tryin to bitch, just curious.
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You did Jim...The piece of crap auctioned (2) rides in an aircraft for Chris's grandson. Needless to say he made off with the money and in the process screwed two members out of $300.00+ each.
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| Ron, I read that part, I was just thinking that Shinik, (screen name) or something like that may know who this guy really is?
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Ron, I read that part, I was just thinking that Shinik, (screen name) or something like that may know who this guy really is? Did anyone actually go see Chandler's grandfather to give him money. Jon, Chandler nor Chris "His grandfather" ever got the money me and Get' n Wade gave 38bat. I got a couple of things to do before I post up all my info on this. The number he gave me is disconnected but I know he is still around Milton. I sent his good buddy on here fishinoversex a pm many months back to tell him to call me and he never replied to my pm and Joe never called. Shiznick "Chris" is a good guy, I've got people I trust on here that has met him and had nothing but good things to say about him. He just got caught up in this scam like me and Get'n Wade did. It will all come out into the open real soon.
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| Hi Murphyslaw, I'm really glad to see your post here supporting Chris and Chandler! I too know Chris and met up with him to do a little fishing not too long ago and plan on doing it again. He is a great guy and is as bothered by all this as anybody. I can assure anyone who has any doubt that Chris is not involved in any scam. Not only has this whole thing caused Chris some grief at a time when he really doesn't need it, but I think it has caused a lack of support from this community on his behalf because some are not sure if this whole thing was a scam or not. I know Chris wants this resolved as much as anyone and this has been hard for him and his family. I hope that anybody who reads this will take time to show Chris(Shiznick) your support for him and his family because the hard times they face are not over by a long way. He is a really good guy just trying to help his grandson as I know anybody on this forum would do for their family. Even just words of support and a prayer when you can is going a long way for his family and he is very humble and appreciative of everything the forum members have done for him. He does not look for or like all the attention, especially concerning the scam issues, but it's what he has been given to deal with and I assure you all of the positive support the forum members have given him helps a lot in a very hard time for his family. Please let him know that you support him and Chandler if you have the opportunity because with some of the negative things that have happened it has been difficult for him to come here and read about problems that have been out of his control. Thank You!!!!! And Chris if you read this hang in there!!! We will contine to pray for you, your family, and Chandler!! I know you are a good guy as well as a lot of others on here. Everything will work out so just hang in there and let me know if you need anything!! Jeff
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Ron, I read that part, I was just thinking that Shinik, (screen name) or something like that may know who this guy really is? Did anyone actually go see Chandler's grandfather to give him money. Jon, Chandler nor Chris "His grandfather" ever got the money me and Get' n Wade gave 38bat. I got a couple of things to do before I post up all my info on this. The number he gave me is disconnected but I know he is still around Milton. I sent his good buddy on here fishinoversex a pm many months back to tell him to call me and he never replied to my pm and Joe never called. Shiznick "Chris" is a good guy, I've got people I trust on here that has met him and had nothing but good things to say about him. He just got caught up in this scam like me and Get'n Wade did. It will all come out into the open real soon. Good deal. I figured as much. I did not think or want to think that Chris was in on a scam. But I was just trying to cover all the possible senarios and try to gather as much info as possible. I was really hoping that Chris would have some type of info to help us. Like I said earlier Joel, let me know if you need me to help with anything. I have been to Joe's house and can get back there. Whether he still lives there or not is the question. Let's just hope this is one big mis-understanding. But it doesn't look good.
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Thanks Jon, I might take you up on a ride by..... jeff465, I have nothing bad to say about Chris and no one on here should either. If my money had went to Chandler I would have probably just ate my loses but he didn't get the money and I'm out the plane ride.
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