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POSTED BELOW ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE FWC MEETING IN SANDESTIN IN FEBUARY. MAKE PLANS TO ATTEND AND VOICE YOUR CONCERNS OR SIT HOME AND WATCH TV. IT'S YOUR CHOICE.Time: | 8:30 a.m. | Dates: | February 4-5, 2009 | Place: | Sandestin Golf and Beach Resort 9300 Emerald Coast Parkway West Sandestin, FL 32550 Phone: 850-267-8000 www.sandestin.com Items Requiring Action - Final Rules
- Red Snapper Consistency Rules (Red Snapper Presentation)
- 68B-14.0038, Recreational Red Snapper Season - The proposed rule would amend the Commission's Reef Fish Rule to conform the recreational red snapper fishing season in state waters with the recreational red snapper fishing season in federally-managed waters of the Gulf of Mexico. The proposed rule would change the recreational red snapper fishing season in state waters from April 15 through October 31 to June 1 through September 30.
- Issues (Flounder Review & Discussion Presentation)
- Review and discussion of flounder life history, stock status and requests to increase the bycatch allowance of flounder in shrimp trawls, reduce the recreational flounder bag limit, and prohibit the use of gigs to harvest flounder.
- hey evryone, take a minute to read the highlited areas, it will give you a better idea of what they( the staff) are trying to do. does anyone know who "THE STAFF" are??
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| No Flounder Gigging......... That don't even sound right..... Dang.
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i guess they just what us to quit fishing all together . im sure they"ll be a good crowd at this one. 

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Increase the bycatch limit but decrease the recreational limit on flounder??? Eliminate gigging??  
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| bump this is getting rediculous.
... seemed like a good idea at the time... p.s. - If it smells like fish, eat it!
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Alright. It's time to circle the wagons! We need to get every person we can manage to attend this meeting and sign up for time to speak. The last time we rolled into Panama City on a bus, one of the Commissioners was overheard saying, "Oh God, here comes those Pensacola boys." They know us, and they expect us to show. We need not disappoint them. I will be heading over, and I will be willing to give anyone a ride that wants to go. NO EXCUSES. JUST SHOW UP. IF YOU DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO SHOW UP TO A VITAL MEETING LIKE THIS IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD THEN YOU WILL REAP THE CONSEQUENCES!
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Garbo (1/1/2009) No Flounder Gigging......... That don't even sound right.....
Dang.
They're trying to do the same thing over here in Texas. Unfortunately, it's looking like it will go through. The proposition will ban gigging of flounder from Oct.1 through Nov. 30.
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This is absolutely, positively, asinine. I for one plan on telling the FWC Commissioners what I think of this. We cannot simply lay down and take this.
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historically sportsmen are the ones who protect the stocks of game, if this continues it will be us against them to the point of pouching and possiable violence. why is their data so flawed? why cant they work with us instead of against us to achieve the common goal of bountiful stocks which is what we all want.
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alanbarck (1/1/2009) Increase the bycatch limit but decrease the recreational limit on flounder??? That is freaking retarded. Basically allowing shrimpers to kill more baby flounder that haven't reproduced and making up for it by decreasing the number of adult flounder that recreational anglers can take. What a bunch of crap. I also posted this over on FSFF.
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Definitely will be there for this one. What moron single-handedly came up with this proposal? Does anyone know? How does one sign up to speak?
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| This hit a nerve. When I get out of school in the summer, flounder fishing basically becomes my life, its something I look forward to every year and have many great memories on the water catching flounder. I have been giggin plenty of times, dont care to much for it. And I do think a "gigging season" should be made. Every year more and more people get into gigging and every year the average size flounder becomes smaller and smaller. But I would rather see all yall giggers on the water anynight before I see a damn shrimp boat gettin a a bigger share of the juvenile flounder. Im only sixteen and I dont get my liscence till right before school lets out. but what can i do to help?
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FLYBOY (1/1/2009)
Cobe Killer or Rich or whoever is heading to the meeting, Unfortunately I can not attend the meeting (I'm in Iraq) but are ya'll getting a petition together or a letter or anything? Basically is there anything that those of us who can't attend(and it better be a damn good reason why you can't attend) do to help? EVERYONE needs to show up to this meeting, we showed up in force in Panama City and at least got our concerned heard if you fish at all you should be there!!! No Gigging...does this include spearfishing? WTF, have they lost their minds....  Please post if anyone is getting a petition together. Being in Iraq is no excuse to miss this meeting. I'm sure this is important enough to qualify for emergency leave. Yes, gigging would have to include spearing and bow fishing. Stay safe.
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jewfish (1/1/2009)
alanbarck (1/1/2009) Increase the bycatch limit but decrease the recreational limit on flounder??? That is freaking retarded. Basically allowing shrimpers to kill more baby flounder that haven't reproduced and making up for it by decreasing the number of adult flounder that recreational anglers can take. What a bunch of crap. I also posted this over on FSFF. That IS F-ing retarded The shrimpers are the ones hurting the flounder stock, Not the rec. giggers.
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| Did anyone read the "Flounder Review & Discussion Presentation"? FWC staff do not recommend increasing allowable bycatch for flounder, and they recommend continued evaluation of the gigging issue. The snapper question is the same as last year: either conform to federal rules or have the season shortened in federal waters. Last season, political pressure on FWC resulted in a loss of 56 fishing days in federal waters. FL and TX also affected fishing in AL, MS, and LA, all with 3 mile state waters. If you again favor a shorter season in federal waters (1 June - 5 Aug), give 'em hell.
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I will be there to support flounder fishing and a state snapper season from Apr 15th to Oct 31st. Put whatever spin you want to on it huntley, sorry it doesn't work out for the elite few charter captains you are buddies with.
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| i will be there too! and will bring as many members of the PRFA as i can get to go with me. you can count on our support. if you have not joined one of the clubs this year would be a good time to. show your support help us, help you! come stand united as a group we have a better chance to save something to catch. scot
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This Is My Opinion, If The State of Florida only Cares about the commercial fisherman, than us recreational fisherman need to stop buying license,Let the commercial fisherman Pay for the Ramp fees and The upkeep on Ramps and everything else, I am Not Blaming the commercial fisherman,but the State of Florida only seem to care about them, They need to look at HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WILL LOSE IF WE STOP BUYING LICENSE,, Plus All The Money They Will lose from Out of state License, If This Keeps Up I will buy A out of State Ala License and only Fish There The HELL WITH FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FLYBOY (1/1/2009)
Cobe Killer or Rich or whoever is heading to the meeting, Unfortunately I can not attend the meeting (I'm in Iraq) but are ya'll getting a petition together or a letter or anything? Basically is there anything that those of us who can't attend(and it better be a damn good reason why you can't attend) do to help? EVERYONE needs to show up to this meeting, we showed up in force in Panama City and at least got our concerned heard if you fish at all you should be there!!! No Gigging...does this include spearfishing? WTF, have they lost their minds....  Please post if anyone is getting a petition together. can you borrow the gun ship for a weekend? I'm sure the Airforce wouldn't mind. It's for a worthy cause. 
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| mr. huntley i NEVER understand your logic. if the federal wants to hold us hostage, screw em double state days or quota. 4 snappers march 1st till december 31st. back at ya mr. federally.
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I will be there. Outlawing gigging is freaking ridiculous.Redfish (1/1/2009)
This Is My Opinion, If The State of Florida only Cares about the commercial fisherman, than us recreational fisherman need to stop buying license,Let the commercial fisherman Pay for the Ramp fees and The upkeep on Ramps and everything else, I am Not Blaming the commercial fisherman,but the State of Florida only seem to care about them, They need to look at HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WILL LOSE IF WE STOP BUYING LICENSE,, Plus All The Money They Will lose from Out of state License, If This Keeps Up I will buy A out of State Ala License and only Fish There The HELL WITH FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If they ban flounder gigging for recreationals, they will ban us commercial from doing it too. We don't all run a shrimp boat. They've done everything they can to regulate commercial fishing out of existence. Have you ever tried to catch shrimp with a TED and a BRD on your net? It's damn near impossible. Mark my words, there will be a moratorium on RS endorsements in the near future.
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| This is absolutley ridculous......Looks like a "vacation" to Panama City is coming up...and lets not forget this is the same idiot who questions John Mccain's character..This guy must of been a flounder or a snapper in previous life.. lbhuntley (1/1/2009) Did anyone read the "Flounder Review & Discussion Presentation"? FWC staff do not recommend increasing allowable bycatch for flounder, and they recommend continued evaluation of the gigging issue. The snapper question is the same as last year: either conform to federal rules or have the season shortened in federal waters. Last season, political pressure on FWC resulted in a loss of 56 fishing days in federal waters. FL and TX also affected fishing in AL, MS, and LA, all with 3 mile state waters. If you again favor a shorter season in federal waters (1 June - 5 Aug), give 'em hell.
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Which of you yankees are "making recommendations to staff". I'm moving to Mississippi. 
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Thanks for the heads up on the meeting Cliff. I'll try and make it but wont know for sure til I see the work schedule. Banning gigging is down right Un-American!
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Hmm first off my dad happens to be one of those "FWC staff". He may not be directly involed in this flounder issue nor are many other FWC workers. Infact this is the first he has heard about this issue. Second most of the FWC staff do like to fish/hunt its one reason they do what they do. Furthermore I personally know a few of them who love to go gigging. Third knowing a little bit about these kinds things and how the FWC works I garentee this came about from some head guy who has his own agenda. And if I had to guess he is probably connected to the shrimping industry.
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snakeman14 (1/1/2009) Hmm first off my dad happens to be one of those "FWC staff". He may not be directly involed in this flounder issue nor are many other FWC workers. Infact this is the first he has heard about this issue. Second most of the FWC staff do like to fish/hunt its one reason they do what they do. Furthermore I personally know a few of them who love to go gigging. Third knowing a little bit about these kinds things and how the FWC works I garentee this came about from some head guy who has his own agenda. And if I had to guess he is probably connected to the shrimping industry.Pardon my political incorrectness. Lest I incur the wrath of anyone even remotely connected with the FWC, permit me to rephrase my last.............. 
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