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Posted 1/3/2009 8:51:03 AM


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Guidelines that go along with each members fish ranking that allow the member to participate at different levels.  Such as a member that not reached a certain level or fish ranking, could not post on the "For Sale" section.  The idea doesn't have to stop there either, there may be other restrictions that members have to "earn" their right to as well.   I know the Mods work hard to try and keep things out of the ditch, and it would seem that some form of earned access would limit the spam and possible junk.  And hopefully by the time a member participates to the next level, they would be more aclimated to the forums character as well as they membership would have grown to know them as well.

Jist a thought.  

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 11:08:34 AM
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Hey Garbo,

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I for one don't agree with the fish ranking as your status for access on the forum.  I have been a forum member since September of 2005 which is a little over a year longer than you.  I just don't choose to post a lot.  I do however log onto the forum almost everyday if not several times  a day.  I have become a better fisherman and better informed about our hobby/sport because of members who do like to post  a lot.  The fish ranking is pretty cool and a great way to identify the members who are vocal and highly active on the forum, just don't limit my access because I am just a trigger fish.

Sig

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Posted 1/3/2009 11:15:51 AM


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Sig (1/3/2009)
Hey Garbo,

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I for one don't agree with the fish ranking as your status for access on the forum.  I have been a forum member since September of 2005 which is a little over a year longer than you.  I just don't choose to post a lot.  I do however log onto the forum almost everyday if not several times  a day.  I have become a better fisherman and better informed about our hobby/sport because of members who do like to post  a lot.  The fish ranking is pretty cool and a great way to identify the members who are vocal and highly active on the forum, just don't limit my access because I am just a trigger fish.

Sig

Great Post, and I agree.

I have to think that the fish ranking is adjustable, and could be adjusted to consider different criteria such as "time of membership", number of log ons as well as number of post.   I think the members, like you, that have been members for a very long time or since the begining and don't have a lot of posts should carry more weight than someone like me that "just talks alot".  

All said, the idea should be adjustable, and I do agree with your thoughts and for the idea to work and make the Mods jobs easier, it would have to be adjusted to accomidate the most respected members such as yourself. 

Thanks for contributing to making the idea a better one.

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 11:28:49 AM
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Sig (1/3/2009)
Hey Garbo,

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I for one don't agree with the fish ranking as your status for access on the forum.  I have been a forum member since September of 2005 which is a little over a year longer than you.  I just don't choose to post a lot.  I do however log onto the forum almost everyday if not several times  a day.  I have become a better fisherman and better informed about our hobby/sport because of members who do like to post  a lot.  The fish ranking is pretty cool and a great way to identify the members who are vocal and highly active on the forum, just don't limit my access because I am just a trigger fish.

Sig

 Dont worry sig, the progressive post count rewarding process could max out once a poster has reached a certian high number ( say 2000 posts maybe ) then as the post count continues to rise the restrictions can begin to reoccur in a reverse order. then we can look for posts like " what was your most regretable post??? Eventually the poster could reach a "read only" status. ( Garbo, just kidding, I am intertained by most of your posts and end up reading the rest)

 

  Kidding aside,  I agree W/ SIG on thyis one. I am registered on annother work / trade related fourm and I have posted nothing in the three years since I registered because of the system that was described here.

 It Is a great resorce for read only learning, but the few times I would have contrubited to somthing to a thread I could have contrubited to. I was locked out due to a zero post count. Therefore I gain from reading, but contribute nothing and refuse to post "Wow" just to raise a post count on this petecular fourm.

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Posted 1/3/2009 11:34:45 AM
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how  many  more  post  i  have  to  make  before  i go  to  next  level
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Posted 1/3/2009 11:54:11 AM


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Hold up. 

No offense meant, but it is already part of the forum, just manually enforced and not completely enforced.  If you read the subtitle in the "For Sale" section, there  is a rule that states you have to be a member for a certain period of time and have a certain number of post before posting something for sale in that section.  The rule is not completely enforced and also has to be enforced manually by a Mod.  So the structure is in place in the rule already. 

If the fish ranking was adjusted to be based on all criteria of membership and not just post count it could benefit the Mods, the Forum and all the members, and mostly limit the Crap. 

I can only think of what the mods on this site have to do to monitor it at times, and don't know why they do it.

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 12:05:01 PM


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Sig (1/3/2009)
Hey Garbo,

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I for one don't agree with the fish ranking as your status for access on the forum.  I have been a forum member since September of 2005 which is a little over a year longer than you.  I just don't choose to post a lot.  I do however log onto the forum almost everyday if not several times  a day.  I have become a better fisherman and better informed about our hobby/sport because of members who do like to post  a lot.  The fish ranking is pretty cool and a great way to identify the members who are vocal and highly active on the forum, just don't limit my access because I am just a trigger fish.

Sig

I agree here.  I often avoid posting for two reasons:  I expect ridicule from certain members on what I post, and to be honest, a lot of you guys are a lot more informed on certain topics than I am and often reflect my thoughts on a particular subject with much greater articulation than I could ever muster.  Just my thoughts...

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Posted 1/3/2009 12:07:14 PM


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Hey Garbo,

I appreciate what you are trying to do but I for one don't agree with the fish ranking as your status for access on the forum.  I have been a forum member since September of 2005 which is a little over a year longer than you.  I just don't choose to post a lot.  I do however log onto the forum almost everyday if not several times  a day.  I have become a better fisherman and better informed about our hobby/sport because of members who do like to post  a lot.  The fish ranking is pretty cool and a great way to identify the members who are vocal and highly active on the forum, just don't limit my access because I am just a trigger fish.

Sig

I agree here.  I often avoid posting for two reasons:  I expect ridicule from certain members on what I post, and to be honest, a lot of you guys are a lot more informed on certain topics than I am and often reflect my thoughts on a particular subject with much greater articulation than I could ever muster.  Just my thoughts...

That's why Length/Time of Membership is so important and should carry value in ranking.

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 12:14:50 PM
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I would strongly disagree with any type of pecking order.  I've been a member since inception...Was a long time member of fish the bridge.  I normally only post fishing reports or fishing related topics.  I don't like the what if, political, or rhetorical posts but I mind my own business and surf the maze picking only what I'm interested in.  There are several members who I feel refrain from posting because of such ideology and frankly its sucks because there is a wealth of knowledge amongst some of these members.  As you can see I only have 107 posts but I can guarantee you that most are first hand reports.  I like Scott's idea regarding anonymity, there shouldn't be any.   If you're are not willing to give your name and e-mail address then you shouldn't be allowed to post. Many other fishing forums do this.  My 02 cents.  
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Posted 1/3/2009 12:25:43 PM


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Try forgeting about Post Count as a rank, if you can.  Not trying to recreate the BCS, but try this:

** Post in fishing reports adds value and Post in Off Topic or non fishing sections don't.

** Length of time as a member adds value and Post count don't

** Number of replies to a thread adds value and Threads started don't.

Keep in mind that these are just ideas and Assuming there is an option of adjusting the ranking system, it could be a really great idea. 

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 1:45:18 PM
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Garbo...I read your posts and enjoy some of them...however this has to be the WORST one I have ever read. I have been on this forum since "fishthebridge" so about 6 years and guys forgive me but I just do not have enough time to post as much as I would like. So making a pecking order would be suicide for this forum...

Garbo you are smarter than this post!

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Posted 1/3/2009 2:09:44 PM


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status, pecking order, etc. is already established in a way because of the pin fish, ruby red lips, trigger, and so on...your post count is in place, your visits are in place and so on...i could post a fish tale every day of the week but, i choose not to...there is an "off topic", "politics", "general chat" for a reason and i think chris has tweaked this forum about as well as he can....

to me, the come on here to sell things when you have just joined or have less than 30 posts is a good way (rule) to keep the spammers and ebay'rs at bay so to speak...it's up to the mods and the admin. to police that sort of thing...

in other words, if it aint broke, don't fix it...

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 3:16:10 PM


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I'm sorry Curtis, I don't believe the "pecking order" would have a positive effect at all.  Do more damage than good. JMHO...

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Posted 1/3/2009 3:22:15 PM
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Talk about trying to find a solution to a problem that does not exist

Not everyone has message board turrets, and just posts the first piece of garbage questions that come into thier heads to get a post count in the thousands.

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Posted 1/3/2009 4:20:23 PM
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is   there  someway  u  can  get  ur   name  deleted   from   forum.looks  like   there   are   several  people   on  this  forum   that   wants   to  have  their   own  little  click   and  no  one    else  interfere   just   delete  me   ill   keep   the   knowledge  i  know  about  fishing  to  my  self    ,   have  a  great   day   guys
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Posted 1/3/2009 4:29:48 PM


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is there someway u can get ur name deleted from forum.looks like there are several people on this forum that wants to have their own little click and no one else interfere just delete me ill keep the knowledge i know about fishing to my self , have a great day guys


i'm sure you can be deleted...pm a mod or the admin himself...sorry you feel that way...i don't think by this thread that anyone is trying to run anyone off...there are no "cliques" on here...some fish from the bank, some from the piers/docks, some fish the 3mb, bays, some on close in wrecks, some from rigs, some in rivers, lakes, some from blue water...it doesn't matter, there is always a hook, line, gig, speargun involved...re-think that one...


 

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Posted 1/3/2009 5:34:21 PM


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is there someway u can get ur name deleted from forum.looks like there are several people on this forum that wants to have their own little click and no one else interfere just delete me ill keep the knowledge i know about fishing to my self , have a great day guys


Don't leave Frank! Your wealth of knowledge about fishing is much appreciated and needed. If you stay I'll bake ya a cake in the Magic Silver Box.promise. I agree that this is dumbest Idea Curtis has come up with but a noble effort to clean up the forum.


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Posted 1/3/2009 7:21:46 PM


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Dang, too much is being read into this.  

Is there a rule that states: You have to be a member for more than a month and have 30 post before listing something for sell in the For Sale Section? 

If the answer is "Yes", and I do believe it is, then it should be easy to block a member from posting in that section until the requirements or met based on the rule, instead of having Scott, Wade and the other Mods chase all of them. 

Is that, that bad of a deal???????   Why hasn't anyone raised sand about the rule before now?

There could be other benefits from using this method instead of the Honesty policy, but Lord knows I don't want to bring them up.

 

 

 

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Posted 1/3/2009 7:28:37 PM


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Dang, too much is being read into this.  

Is there a rule that states: You have to be a member for more than a month and have 30 post before listing something for sell in the For Sale Section? 

If the answer is "Yes", and I do believe it is, then it should be easy to block a member from posting in that section until the requirements or met based on the rule, instead of having Scott, Wade and the other Mods chase all of them. 

Is that, that bad of a deal???????   Why hasn't anyone raised sand about the rule before now?

There could be other benefits from using this method instead of the Honesty policy, but Lord knows I don't want to bring them up.

 

Hey Garbo I think the rule reads 30 posts OR 1 month, however I have been known to be wrong.


  

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Posted 1/3/2009 7:32:52 PM


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Dang, too much is being read into this.  

Is there a rule that states: You have to be a member for more than a month and have 30 post before listing something for sell in the For Sale Section? 

If the answer is "Yes", and I do believe it is, then it should be easy to block a member from posting in that section until the requirements or met based on the rule, instead of having Scott, Wade and the other Mods chase all of them. 

Is that, that bad of a deal???????   Why hasn't anyone raised sand about the rule before now?

There could be other benefits from using this method instead of the Honesty policy, but Lord knows I don't want to bring them up.

 

Hey Garbo I think the rule reads 30 posts OR 1 month, however I have been known to be wrong.

Thank You, and you are correct and I am wrong, but the point is the same.  If there was a requirement that the Month or 30 post had to be met before the member could post in that section, and until the month or 30 post  were met the member would be limited to Read Only in the For Sale Section, it would keep the Mods from having to police and enforce the rule.  

But, I am starting to wonder if I even understand why the rule exist anyway, now......I guess we would rather gripe about it.

 

 

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Posted 1/7/2009 5:43:19 AM


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This thread stops here!! The next person to post will be demoted to a Pin Fish!!

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Posted 1/7/2009 10:26:39 AM


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is there someway u can get ur name deleted from forum.looks like there are several people on this forum that wants to have their own little click and no one else interfere just delete me ill keep the knowledge i know about fishing to my self , have a great day guys


Don't leave Frank! Your wealth of knowledge about fishing is much appreciated and needed. If you stay I'll bake ya a cake in the Magic Silver Box.promise. I agree that this is dumbest Idea Curtis has come up with but a noble effort to clean up the forum.

Dang Frank you hardly post as it is, and I know for sure you have more knowledge in your head that 10 of me put together.  Hell I dont even call them Pie Rats anymore because of you.  I call them Pier Jockies.

 

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Posted 1/15/2009 2:04:01 AM


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Dang, too much is being read into this.

Is there a rule that states: You have to be a member for more than a month and have 30 post before listing something for sell in the For Sale Section?

If the answer is "Yes", and I do believe it is, then it should be easy to block a member from posting in that section until the requirements or met based on the rule, instead of having Scott, Wade and the other Mods chase all of them.

Is that, that bad of a deal??????? Why hasn't anyone raised sand about the rule before now?

There could be other benefits from using this method instead of the Honesty policy, but Lord knows I don't want to bring them up.

Hey Garbo I think the rule reads 30 posts OR 1 month, however I have been known to be wrong.


Thank You, and you are correct and I am wrong, but the point is the same. If there was a requirement that the Month or 30 post had to be met before the member could post in that section, and until the month or 30 post were met the member would be limitedto Read Only in the For Sale Section, it would keep the Mods from having to police and enforce the rule.

But, I am starting to wonder if I even understand why the rule exist anyway, now......I guess we would rather gripe about it.


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Posted 1/19/2009 11:51:14 PM


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See what you did Curtis, now we're going to get another new forum and we're all gonna be pinfish again...

Seriously, I always thought the 30 posts deal was to scare off the spammers anyway.  With the keyboard cowboy mentality some of the members have on here, a new poster is just asking for a good lashing by not following the rules... 

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