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| This buck's antlers at first appear to make him an odd shape spike but I think this is an older deer. I'm interested in what others have to say about him? 
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My opinion, doesn't look that old to me. He is thick, but he has a short muzzle and ears. I'd say if you wanna shoot him- shoot him, he would eat good, but he might make a nice wierd rack in a couple of more years! If he stepped out in front of me right now, i'd smoke him, then again, I hunt public land.
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| I would say that deer is at least 3 1/2 yrs old and I probably would shoot him. I think a better comparision could be made if there are other deer in the pics to size him up. (not sure where the pic was taken). But the problem is if he is a maturing buck that could breed this year, a full antlered deer isnt really going to mess with him because he can hurt them pretty bad with the bladed long cow horns.
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i'd have to wack him, its late in the season and i cant eat horns lol, cull buck to me
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Caspr21 (1/8/2009)
I would say that deer is at least 3 1/2 yrs old and I probably would shoot him. I think a better comparision could be made if there are other deer in the pics to size him up. (not sure where the pic was taken). But the problem is if he is a maturing buck that could breed this year, a full antlered deer isnt really going to mess with him because he can hurt them pretty bad with the bladed long cow horns. Agreed maybe older but put him down when you get a chance, I have been after one for a while but just cant seem to get near him, maybe that is why he has lived so long.
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Sequoiha (1/8/2009)
id bust his butt,,, crap, id shoot almost anything right now.... I second that!! this late in the season, and that big of a body,... Dead Ass!!
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mpmorr (1/8/2009)
Caspr21 (1/8/2009)
I would say that deer is at least 3 1/2 yrs old and I probably would shoot him. I think a better comparision could be made if there are other deer in the pics to size him up. (not sure where the pic was taken). But the problem is if he is a maturing buck that could breed this year, a full antlered deer isnt really going to mess with him because he can hurt them pretty bad with the bladed long cow horns. Agreed maybe older but put him down when you get a chance, I have been after one for a while but just cant seem to get near him, maybe that is why he has lived so long. mpmorr let me know if you want me to run through the thicket that he is living in with a milk jug so you can wack him!
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I agree with buckwild. Young deer with short muzzle and skinny body and neck. I think he is an above avg 1st year spike and with another year or two of growth will be a stud. If you had pics of him last year and knew he was the same deer with bad genes I'd say pile him up but if your trying to grow big bucks then that one needs to walk in my book.
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Guy's that deer is not a young spike; look at the base of the horns. He has knotty bases like a mature 8 pnt would have. He also has a sway in the belly that deer get at 3 years of age and more. Shoot em.
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| Guys thanks for the input and for guys who think he's a first year buck I have to debunk that. This picture shows a 1st year buck, I witnessed him on stand and could see the nubs on his forehead. Now look at his back and head compared to the feeder and then look at the previous buck at the start of this post, big difference. I've only been hunting Alabama for about 5 years but I would bet there's at least 2 years in age difference between these two. 
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Dust his ass......dont want him to breed your does
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i`d shoot him and the coon! i wouldn`t want him spreading his seed.
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| According to the QDMA there is no such thing as a cull buck. Research shows that, unless you are hunting in a high fence, culling bucks does not help your herd one single bit. In fact, the opposite may be true. Additionally, that feed pile is going to get you a big ticket from the man sooner or later.
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69Viking (1/8/2009)
Guys thanks for the input and for guys who think he's a first year buck I have to debunk that. This picture shows a 1st year buck, I witnessed him on stand and could see the nubs on his forehead. Now look at his back and head compared to the feeder and then look at the previous buck at the start of this post, big difference. I've only been hunting Alabama for about 5 years but I would bet there's at least 2 years in age difference between these two.
When I say he's a first year buck I didn't mean he hatched this year, I'm saying he is 1.5 year old and this is his first set of horns. To me he looks like a 125-130lb deer which means he's young if you are in al. If he looked like a 150+ I'd have a diff opinion. If shooting a spike is your thing then shoot him. When you do pull his jaw bone and have it looked at by a biologist and let us know what he says.
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As James said there are no more more Cull bucks as per QDMA, the doe carries 90 percent of the genes, If its public land, shoot. if its private let him go . IMHO the deer is young.
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| shoot him! he looks older than 2.5 to me and if he is then he should have a bigger rack than that. bust his ass, pull his jaw bone and prove some ppl wrong. i dnt know if the doe has 90% of the genes or not, kinda doubt it for some reason cause how can a deer give its offspring 90% of its genetic makeup. but you know for a fact that he has bad genes so waste him. plus he has a pretty cool rack.. id bust him if he walked out on me btw culling bucks isnt gonna help your herd that much genetic wise but that deer doesnt look like a trophy rack to me. one thing for sure is he takes away valuable food that provide antler growth for trphy deer.
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Rectangular body and decent neck where it meet's his chest. I would say he is definitely not a 1 1/2 year old buck. 2 1/2 year old at the least. He doesn't have a doe's build like a young buck, and too much mass at the bases. It might not greatly improve your herd to cull inferior buck's, but it's damn sure not going to hurt it any. Whack him!
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| Are there other bucks in the area to service the does? If so, put him down.
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| Nice pictures. That corn pile is a great place to get pics. I've heard of people putting barbed wire across the upper part of those type of feeders in the spring. When the bucks start shedding their antlers, they'll nock them off when they go to feed.
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| cull or no cull, meat is meat, and you can't eat the horn anyway. I'd pop him, but that's just me, and to each is his on.
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Well back in the day the people thought crappy bucks breeding created other crappy bucks, but there have been allot of articles in the past few years that have suggested other wise. I have never really formed an oppinion one way or the other. I guess if you want meat knock him down.
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| Great input guys, I can definitely see a varying of opinion. If anybody hunts that area the feed and feeder will be gone, just there for pictures and to find out if any deer were using a back trail along some pines. Lets us know what's coming in to the property from the pines on the adjacent property. As far as his size I'd have to estimate him at 150+ pounds easy. I shot a 120 pound doe this year and he dwarfs her. We go back next weekend to hunt. If I see him I'll take a close look at him and if he's 150+ pounds like I think he is and I see that his rack is a abnormal he might just finish out filling my freezer! Good discussion that's for sure. Good luck to all those hunting this weekend, I wish I could be out there too.
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ScullsMcNasty (1/8/2009)
shoot him! he looks older than 2.5 to me and if he is then he should have a bigger rack than that. bust his ass, pull his jaw bone and prove some ppl wrong. i dnt know if the doe has 90% of the genes or not, kinda doubt it for some reason cause how can a deer give its offspring 90% of its genetic makeup. but you know for a fact that he has bad genes so waste him. plus he has a pretty cool rack.. id bust him if he walked out on me btw culling bucks isnt gonna help your herd that much genetic wise but that deer doesnt look like a trophy rack to me. one thing for sure is he takes away valuable food that provide antler growth for trphy deer. Very good points. Whether or not QDM is using the word "cull" buck or not he will still breed, and if that is his genetics, IT WILL BE EVIDENT IN THE RACKS OF HIS OFFSPRING. A few years ago, we on our place had a bad problem with main frame 8 pts, nice bucks, 4 points on the left side and a slick long main beam on the right. We killed 6 bucks that year like that between the ages of 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 and havent seen it since then. Now there is really less evidence to prove that one doe or a couple of does would hold that much genetics that would produce that many buck offsprings in that short amout of time without having a strong genetic component from there sperm donor ie a mature buck with that characteristic. Just hard for me to say there is no such thing as a cull buck, or a genetically inferior buck
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