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Posted 6/19/2009 9:50:17 AM
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I'm looking for a way fo find out how high above sea level a property is...I can guess at it all day long but theres nothing like being sure.
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Posted 6/19/2009 10:05:03 AM


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Where do you live?

Or do you have a handheld GPs? Mine tells me the elevation.

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Posted 6/19/2009 10:49:47 AM
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I agree, a GPS is the best way; however, you might try this site to get a fairly close idea:

http://www.topozone.com/states/Florida.asp?county=Escambia

I grew up in Navy Point, which the above site says is 33' above sea level.  The house I lived in was (and still is) on Baublits Dr., which is on the water and which when surveyed came out to be 9' 6" above sea level.

If you have a friend who is a surveyor, maybe he or she could help.  Any surveyors out there ???

John

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Posted 6/19/2009 10:58:09 AM


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there's only about 20 members on here that are pls...and for a flood plane cert. depending on location, look at $100/hr...otherwise go to this site and navigate through gis maps, find the area and turn the topo layer on...

http://www.escpa.org/

 

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Posted 6/19/2009 11:04:38 AM


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The only true way to know exactly is to do an elevation certificate survey.  It's going to cost about $300-$400 depending usually.  At least that is what mine cost when I bought my last house.  I am in the last flood zone that requires insurance and I am 14.7 feet above sea level.

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Posted 6/19/2009 11:41:39 AM


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Telum Piscis (6/19/2009)
The only true way to know exactly is to do an elevation certificate survey. It's going to cost about $300-$400 depending usually. At least that is what mine cost when I bought my last house. I am in the last flood zone that requires insuranceand I am 14.7 feet above sea level.



Yes Jon, you are correct but, it is kinda funny you can usually get pretty close using Google Earth and then zoom in on your property and it usually pretty accurate. I know our boss kinda uses it as a check for us! If you want a pro to come do it you can call us at 850-476-4768. It is Butler and Associates.


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Posted 6/19/2009 1:35:47 PM
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Thanks everyone....I'm looking at some property in the Gulf Shores area...I definitely need to know if I'm on dry ground and how much tidal surge I can avoid.
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Posted 6/19/2009 1:42:12 PM


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saltfisher1 (6/19/2009)
I definitely need to know if I'm on dry ground and how much tidal surge I can avoid.

smart buyer!...you could talk to the neighbors as well as visit the site during or right after a heavy rainfall...see if there are any drainage easements or holding ponds close by as well...good luck...

 

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Posted 6/19/2009 2:04:36 PM
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I'll be around the lagoon so I will be more concerned with hurricane storm surge....I'm thinking this area is 14 to 20 ft above sea level...not sure.....Some of the websites listed are not very easily navigated....This area made it through Ivan with the water 35 ft from the house...Close but still needed about a 6 ft rise to get into the home.
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Posted 6/20/2009 4:57:14 AM
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If you don't have a plat, the next thing I would do is look at a topo and look for a USGS benchmark.  If there is one nearby you can get the elevation there.  If you're lucky and it is close enough to you you can get a pretty good idea just by eyeballing or with a hand level.

A local surveyor who's been in business for a while is going to have all kinds of data handy for marks that he has run and has confidence in without re-inventing the wheel and going back to the BM.  That's what he's going to use if you hire him to do a complete survey and expose his insurance-which is a major consideration in cost these days.  If you shop a bit you may find one that will give you a cheap price as he knows he already has the data.

If you tell me the area I can zoom in and send a piece of the topo to you.  I'm not telling you to trust the topo contours, but it will show you what readily available benchmark there is near you.  The contour interval on that sheet is 2 meters and they say their data marks (not benchmarks) are to within 0.1 meter.

WARNING!  This post is by an old fart with a dingy old boat who dreams about fishing more than he fishes.  I gladly share what I know (or think I know) and gladly read what others have to share especially if it is different from what I say.

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Posted 6/20/2009 7:47:04 PM
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About 3 or 4 miles down fort morgan rd on the lagoon side but closer to the road.
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Posted 6/20/2009 10:31:52 PM
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I just sent you a PM.  If that view is not sufficient you can send me your email and I will email you a pdf and/or bitmap.

WARNING!  This post is by an old fart with a dingy old boat who dreams about fishing more than he fishes.  I gladly share what I know (or think I know) and gladly read what others have to share especially if it is different from what I say.
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Posted 6/20/2009 10:39:41 PM
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Got it thanks...Having a bit of trouble understanding the map and what some stuff means.
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Posted 6/21/2009 11:30:18 AM
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JoeZ (6/19/2009)
Where do you live?

Or do you have a handheld GPs? Mine tells me the elevation.

 

How much do those things average in cost for a decent one?

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Posted 6/22/2009 1:03:37 AM


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I thought the property appraiser's site was based on surveys?

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Posted 6/22/2009 8:29:57 AM


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Dragnfly (6/22/2009)
I thought the property appraiser's site was based on surveys?


No they have nothing to do with each other! The property appraiser's web site is based off of deeds and plats only. Their appraisals are based off of land value and the type of construction that was used during the home construction(i.e. Brick, stucco, etc.) and they are also based on recent home sales in the area!


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Posted 6/22/2009 9:36:45 PM
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Do not trust a GPS for the kind of elevation information you are trying to get unless you have the extra antennae/software for "centimeter accuracy" such as is used in surveying.  I use a hand-held regularly in my work and they absolutely do not have the kind of accuracy you need - not even close.

You would do better finding the benchmark and eyeballing, better yet, get a couple/few hundred feet of cheap garden hose and walk your way over to the property using a yardstick.  I'm coming down Sunday, if you buy me a beer I'll show you how.

WARNING!  This post is by an old fart with a dingy old boat who dreams about fishing more than he fishes.  I gladly share what I know (or think I know) and gladly read what others have to share especially if it is different from what I say.

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Posted 6/22/2009 9:57:01 PM
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I wont be back to the area for 2 to 5 wks.
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Posted 6/22/2009 11:43:32 PM
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Garden hose method is pretty simple and intuitive.  Water seeks its own level.  Once you have a known level (the BM below in your case) you just set the hose up on a stick at a known height above the BM and take the other end down the road as far as it will go.  Fill the hose with water and the other end will be at the same level when the water does not run either way (provided the hose is not kinked or something like that).  Then just leapfrog yourself down the edge of the pavement until you get where you want to be.  If you started out three feet above the BM and wind up 6 feet above the finish you have gone down three feet.

If you want to get fancy you can tape a piece of transparent plastic tubing on a stick at each end of the hose and then mark your level like a sight glass.  Or you can rent a level pretty cheap at Home Depot.

The topo I sent shows a monument north of Middle Brigadoon on a straight line across 180 (now at the north end of Lagoon circle).  Elevation 4.2 meters at 30 deg 15.3943'N by 87 deg 44.3258 W.  Looks like it's right out in the open, probably a concrete post with a brass disc on top. A GPS should get you within spitting distance unless it's been moved.

You are not going to get "first order" info this way, but you'll get close. 

WARNING!  This post is by an old fart with a dingy old boat who dreams about fishing more than he fishes.  I gladly share what I know (or think I know) and gladly read what others have to share especially if it is different from what I say.

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Posted 6/23/2009 12:58:31 PM
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Thanks.
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