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bayou boyextra (3/28/2008)
I have watched the same two boats come rolling by for a half year now and they always patrol water in the depth of six to eight inches..with generators roaring and electric motors stiiring up the sediment on the bottom..the bayou where I live is just beginning to show some signs of recovering it's sea grass..All we need is a bunch of a-holes destroying the delicate layers that are once again are trying to support aquatic marine plantlife..I hope we enact the same laws that govern the tampa area with no motoring inside of a certain depth..the emergent grass lines and seagrasses are much to precious to the chain of life in this area to be blasting with motors of any kind much less a bunch of ignorant environmental rapists that I see pass here several times a week..  I HAVE AN IDEA WHY DONT YOU TAKE YOUR TAMPA HUGGING TREE ASS BACK TO TAMPA THIS IS PENSACOLA BITCH. I KNOW SEAGRASS AND MORE GRASS LINES BLASTING THE SEDIMENT UNDER THE WATER
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I loved the reply about the fertilizers, sewage and the destruction of the waterfront in response to the concern with seagrass beds. I wanted to reply the same sentiments but lacked a computer I could do so on. I have floundered for over 30 years and never used anything but a push pole and lights with a battery or waded with a coleman lantern and an innertube. As far as the folks that use a generator and trolling motor, I don't know if they hurt anything but I have seen more grass in the last 10 years than I did the first 20. I believe they have no effect on the health of the system. If bayouboy really wants to help then let's stop the unchecked building and destruction of our wetlands and coastal area. Tear down your house. Haul it off and mitigate the damage you have already caused. Then come talk (preach) to me.
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I enjoy jumping on the band wagon from time to time and poking fun. But in real life I do respect the enviroment. I am guilty of gigging flounder as close to the beach as I can. Some times there within an inch of the beach when they meet there maker. As far as destroying the grass beds with my trolling motor thats just not so. I avoid the grass beds like the plauge. Grass beds and trolling motors dont mix. If its not deep enough to troll over the grass beds then im moving out deeper until the grass subcides then I move back up to the beach. The last time I checked this was not against the law. It is appreciated that you are concerned about the enviroment but to me your tackfulness and facts just arent up to par. Sir you come across as an aragant ass. A miserable old man with nothing better to do than come up with bogus claims as to why the grass beds on your beach are dying. Misery loves company but you wont get much here. And to answer your question. (Why gig flounder in 4 inches of water?) Because thats were there layin.
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Midnight Rider (4/4/2008) (Why gig flounder in 4 inches of water?) Because thats were there layin.All in all That Just Sums It Up...
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I wanted to put one more thought out there for you. I hope you stay being a "Tree Lover"! Do it as much as you can. But along comes with that, many changes in life! I want to make sure that when we have a Hurricane, you go outside and hug your tree very tight! Don't let go at all! Then when you are living out west!, you can stop worrying about the bayou! You can rest assure, we'll still be here, taking care of them and not tearing them up. We have beach renurishment done to almost all of the beaches in all of our areas. Yeap!, they are still there, but the sand fleas that used to be there aren't there like they used to be, and reports are advising that it also affected the Sea Turtles and their coming onshore to lay eggs! It happens all over the place, "Change"! there is nothing we are doing to cause it, but we are holding our heads high and remaining adults and not pitching a fit because someone is having more fun than the other one out on the water. If you are as smart as your online degree probablly says you are, you might be ables to find a nice comfortable tree stand you could sit in so you can see where you're going too! Too bad we couldn't have had a cookout and enjoyed some great fresh fish before you leave! Oh, I guess I'd have to set that up through "Caring and Sharing"! That's what we do with our water over here! Don't sweat the small stuff! Are you clammy?
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| This is the closest to correct that I have seen so far but I have known for some time that the land in bayou grande on the east side does have property rights out sixty feet from the mean tide line..that is why there are no piers on the west side of the bayou until the head waters(which I would think might involve some sort of assesment on property taxes....and no fishing on the NAS side inside of the marked bouys..all of the piers built here have been built inside of the sixty foot limit and do not need lease agreements just conform to current environmental standards as more are needed to provide habitat for invertebrates that filter the water..Historically to address what happened to the fish in the bayou..first the onslaught of a population in Navy point brought that about in the fifties... not rapidly..due to storm water and septic tank seepage...the big blow came with the viet-nam war another causalty of the war is Bayou Grande..as you know it was fought mainly in the air and NAS was a major rework facility for repaired aircraft..it seems that thousands of gallons of solvents used in the maintenence facilities was containerized in normal fifty gallon drums and dumped at the facility behind the then skeet range (Hmmmm_) lead, brass, or steal.shot..going into the bayou..anyway seepage from the drums effectively wiped out all the botanical growth in the bayou and polluted the sediments..this was back in around 1967..wow look it only took forty years for enough sediment to cover up that problem.. the other part occurred when raw sewage was allowed to be piped into the bayou..oh my that is one of the reasons bacteria counts are so high around the boat launch areas..because many of the people at that end of the bayou just flushed their sewage directly into the bayou..here we are today..a big break from mother nature... hurricaines..chases many inhabitants of navy point out..fewer used septic systems..less residual nutrients flowing into the estuarie..the bayou does not have to vomit as much..grass comes back (not the really desirable turtle grass),healthier mullet runs oysters and barnacles abound and begin to filter the water again..but what do I see..hungry for the kill want to post their ridiculous catches..maybe more than they can eat or intend to eat or maybe they will use it for a picture only because they don't like fish.that is what I see going on here you really are not sportsman you are braggers and one uppers..that don't have a clue as to the process of the chain of life.. Another note to those that attacked me based on the loss of a loved one I am sorry that the person lost was not more coherent than to participate in a colonial struggle..I don't like violence in any form..I don't embrace religion..it has killed many of your ancestors..you have the ability to reason not just feed your face..start acting that way ..there will be more flunder here if there is more grass..to supplant the life sycles of the invertebrates they feed on..nuff said here I have another bone to pick on another issue,..I like all of you guys for taking an inbterest for what ever reason you are what makes this country a little different than the others..
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bayou boyextra (4/9/2008) there will be more flunder here if there is more grass..What is a flunder ???
Joel Murphy Pace, FL.
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That's where the fish are ,BD
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| he just doesnt know how to flounder except at joe patties!!!!!!
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bayou boyextra (4/9/2008) but what do I see..hungry for the kill want to post their ridiculous catches..maybe more than they can eat or intend to eat or maybe they will use it for a picture only because they don't like fish.that is what I see going on here you really are not sportsman you are braggers and one uppers...I can tell you right now that every fish i catch i eat. i may not eat it THAT day but it DOES get eaten!!! i dont post on here to brag...the purpose of this forum is to share with others what you have gotten...if i only posted to brag i would not post when i go out and not get anything...only when i got my limit! we may fun at each other but its all in good fun.


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FlounderAssassin (4/9/2008) [quote]bayou boyextra (4/9/2008) but what do I see..hungry for the kill want to post their ridiculous catches..maybe more than they can eat or intend to eat or maybe they will use it for a picture only because they don't like fish.that is what I see going on here you really are not sportsman you are braggers and one uppers...Well i normally don't get into these silly arguements but this one is completely ridiculous.If all us fishermen didn't like fish and just wanted them dead we sure as hell spend alot of money to go out of our way to kill them.Midnight Rider,Flounder Assasin,Murphy's law and myself just to name a few,we hate fish so much that we all went out and spent thousands of dollars on boats and motors plus all this money on generators and lights just to go hunt these pesky fish we hate.I hate them so much i went so far as to cook him and eat him too,only then did i realize how tasty he was,so i will continue to keep spending my time and money to look for them,as i am sure the rest of the above mentioned will also.Your opinion of us is so far from the truth it isn't funny.
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Last Chance (4/9/2008)
FlounderAssassin (4/9/2008) [quote]bayou boyextra (4/9/2008) but what do I see..hungry for the kill want to post their ridiculous catches..maybe more than they can eat or intend to eat or maybe they will use it for a picture only because they don't like fish.that is what I see going on here you really are not sportsman you are braggers and one uppers...Well i normally don't get into these silly arguements but this one is completely ridiculous.If all us fishermen didn't like fish and just wanted them dead we sure as hell spend alot of money to go out of our way to kill them.Midnight Rider,Flounder Assasin,Murphy's law and myself just to name a few,we hate fish so much that we all went out and spent thousands of dollars on boats and motors plus all this money on generators and lights just to go hunt these pesky fish we hate.I hate them so much i went so far as to cook him and eat him too,only then did i realize how tasty he was,so i will continue to keep spending my time and money to look for them,as i am sure the rest of the above mentioned will also.Your opinion of us is so far from the truth it isn't funny. That about sums it up right there! 


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You know I am thinking that this is not the issue as yes I am a tree hugger...no one bull dozed anything to build this house..yes the area is grand fathered in by land grants and inherited due to some song and dance man of the past I don't know who... no one I repeat no one ..in this bayou will deny you help or shelter for your boat and you are in distress ..but you will be cussed for being irresponsible and justly so for destroying habitat of the area..that was and is my sole intention for this thread..if you respect the progress of the recovery of the bay you will be rewarded many times over in what you have experience so far instead of experiencing of life of watching a decline of catches..you will be rewarded with a full plate with little effort..just realize that every thing you take is a living organism that replenishes itself the way you do and by taking it unescessarilly in excess will leave a real footprint on the replenishing of the natural resources that feed and entertain us all catch and release..eat only what will feed you that day..frozen stuff sucks..I am sure most of you know what I mean..I am not here to cause problems..or take away your life experiences..just show a little more depth in the enhancement of the sport you embrace ..be a better indian reliant on the resource not a hunter interested in on only the fur or bragging rights that is shallow and not in line with the responsiblity our creator has placed with us...simply put if you don't put gas in your car you will run out eventually..
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thank you ..I agree with your assessment given todays governing authorities lack of respect for private use of properties..but still there is something involved with this particualar area that is of question...I don't know what; but it is a dispute..the crushing part dealt out by the board is natural from selfish people who are only interested in the taking and notconcerned with preservation..thanks for the input it sounds technically correct..you are a rational person
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Last Chance (4/9/2008)
FlounderAssassin (4/9/2008) [quote]bayou boyextra (4/9/2008) but what do I see..hungry for the kill want to post their ridiculous catches..maybe more than they can eat or intend to eat or maybe they will use it for a picture only because they don't like fish.that is what I see going on here you really are not sportsman you are braggers and one uppers...Well i normally don't get into these silly arguements but this one is completely ridiculous.If all us fishermen didn't like fish and just wanted them dead we sure as hell spend alot of money to go out of our way to kill them.Midnight Rider,Flounder Assasin,Murphy's law and myself just to name a few,we hate fish so much that we all went out and spent thousands of dollars on boats and motors plus all this money on generators and lights just to go hunt these pesky fish we hate.I hate them so much i went so far as to cook him and eat him too,only then did i realize how tasty he was,so i will continue to keep spending my time and money to look for them,as i am sure the rest of the above mentioned will also.Your opinion of us is so far from the truth it isn't funny. Hey Maurice, I know a really good place to go gigging. You want to get the gang up for a trip. I heard the banks in this one spot is really hot right now in like 4" of water 
Joel Murphy Pace, FL.
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| Well you know me,the day i am not ready to fish or hit the water you can just shoot me!When we goin?
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Hey I think this guys brother lives in Perdido Key. We have a jerk over there that brings his spot light out and shines us when we gig in the cove he lives in. Needless to say we'll just stay in there longer even if we aren't killing anything. Just to irritate him. It does help that he has a lot of windows in the rear of his house...we just adjust the lights to shine a bit higher so he can save on his power bill.

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Reel Twiztid (4/11/2008) does help that he has a lot of windows in the rear of his house...we just adjust the lights to shine a bit higher so he can save on his power bill. That sure is nice of you helpin him with his power bill!!! 


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Who says fisherman & woman aren't conservationist.

"Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn." 2006 25' Hydra Sports Vector Twin 150 Yamaha's 16" Carolina Skiff 40 hp Yamaha
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